Join date: Apr 2008
Location: Florida, USA
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Well, this is my third log here.
Anyway, Im 16 years old, 307lbs morning weight 6"2 bench 315x9 squat 675 with wraps and a belt and deadlift 635. I know, I need work on my deadlift, but now that my squat is higher than my deadlift I just dont like deadlifts as much. either way, I want to get 700lbs soon on them
I turn 17 in may, and the summer is in 6 week, goals over this summer, bench 405, squat 700, deadlift 700.
Goals while 17, bench 455, squat 750, deadlift 725 and weigh 300lbs doing it. I also plan smash the squat, deadlift, and total records becoming the strongest person under 18 to ever live.
I plan to hit smolov for 3 weeks starting monday, and then be around 700 on squat. I can probably squat 686-690 right now because when I hit 675 I only had 1 days rest after weeks of bad over training.
Then specialize in deadlift all summer until I can beat the SHW USAPL equipped deadlift of 705, raw with a 710 pull.
Join date: Feb 2007
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Man your a beast, good luck with everything I'll be following it. You train very hard, once you shatter all those records-which you will- you should cut down little bit and you would be absolutely massive with all the muscle you have and enjoy your senior year ;p.
Join date: Apr 2008
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Thanks guys, I dont plan on gaining any more weight period... well muscle is fine but if my waist goes up at all Im gonna kick the cardio up.
Il be squating 4 days a week and doing some walking so I shouldnt gain any fat.
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The smolov I will be doing, Im hopeing to put some size on my legs from it.
Week 1
425x4x9
455x5x7
485x7x5
515x10x3
Week 2
445x4x9
475x5x7
505x7x5
535x10x3
Week 3
455x4x9
485x5x7
515x7x5
545x10x3
Should be excruciating, Il do abb work after every session, bench 2 times a week, working up to 1 heavy set no assistance work, followed by chest supported rows, and seated Hammer strength shrugs.
Supplements, whey, creatine
20 grams creatine a day
120 grams whey a day (3 shakes with milk, peanut butter, and frozen babana)
Join date: Feb 2007
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Smolov should be interesting usually works well but doesn't work for everyone, really you don't need much of a diet right now with the ammount of lifting your doing just get enough caloreis for energy and enough protein to repairing and you should be fine. If you ever decide to try and lose quite a bit of weight, your diet will become more important.
For strength diet does not play that much of a roll from what I've noticed and what a lot of powerlifters seem to think-such as Dave Tate-
Join date: Apr 2008
Location: Florida, USA
Posts: 917
shizen wrote:
Newb in your videos from now on you got to go crazy like you did on that bench, its entertaining just go nuts every time before you lift.
haha!
Yeah that was fun, made me look like a jerk to flip the bench. But the only people there were just a bunch of kids. And they can kill them selves if they dont like it. That and the knee wraps were killing me, I had them on forever and once I was almost ready I saw the bench was right in the way of where I would have to bail out.
The cool thing was there was like 25 people in there, all sitting against the walls not lifting, and when I put the head phones on it was like they all vanished and it was just me and the weight.
Join date: Apr 2008
Location: Florida, USA
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shizen wrote:
Smolov should be interesting usually works well but doesn't work for everyone, really you don't need much of a diet right now with the ammount of lifting your doing just get enough caloreis for energy and enough protein to repairing and you should be fine. If you ever decide to try and lose quite a bit of weight, your diet will become more important.
For strength diet does not play that much of a roll from what I've noticed and what a lot of powerlifters seem to think-such as Dave Tate-
I did the first 3 weeks of smolov before, I got shin splits after I did 585, and took 3 weeks off, came back at 505 and did the first 3 weeks. with 1 day off after the program I squatted 600.
So it should give me a solid 20lbs to get to 700 at least.
EDIT: that and Im conditioned to lifting very often at the moment, so recovery shouldnt be bad at all.
EDIT: actually im gonna up that diet some, looks like I would actually lose weight on it
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swissrugby67 wrote:
I shall be reading this log.
And so shall i, all the best with your training and goals, stay strong.
You mentioned the seated hammer strength shrug, whats your thoughts on this bit of equipment, have just had access to one and found that it just a top bit of kit.
Join date: Apr 2008
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Well theres the seated machine and they have a standing machine, Im going with the seated because Im doing smolov and think that I would be better off not useing my legs for anything other than moveing around on off days.
Yeah that was fun, made me look like a jerk to flip the bench. But the only people there were just a bunch of kids. And they can kill them selves if they dont like it. That and the knee wraps were killing me, I had them on forever and once I was almost ready I saw the bench was right in the way of where I would have to bail out.
The cool thing was there was like 25 people in there, all sitting against the walls not lifting, and when I put the head phones on it was like they all vanished and it was just me and the weight.
So YOU'RE the bastard I envy? Haha. No seriously, that was awesome. You've got some serious strength and ridiculous potential. That bench flew away. Ever tried javelin or something? ROFL
Music can do that for you, that's why my iPod is as essential to my work out as spike/whey/whatever.
So how long have you been training? How did you get your squat technique sorted? I'm interested in your smolov results.
I've been training for 2 years, gained 40 lbs (now at 220 for 6ft 1, 17% BF) and want to gain another 10-15. Would love to hit a 500 squat soon (raw) (404 right now).
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swissrugby67 wrote:
So YOU'RE the bastard I envy? Haha. No seriously, that was awesome. You've got some serious strength and ridiculous potential. That bench flew away. Ever tried javelin or something? ROFL
Music can do that for you, that's why my iPod is as essential to my work out as spike/whey/whatever.
So how long have you been training? How did you get your squat technique sorted? I'm interested in your smolov results.
I've been training for 2 years, gained 40 lbs (now at 220 for 6ft 1, 17% BF) and want to gain another 10-15. Would love to hit a 500 squat soon (raw) (404 right now).
Take care.
I have been benching 3 years squating and deadlifting off and on for 2 years.
I used to squat real wide box squats so I think that gave me a good set up, then I got hurt from squating wide and I moved my stance in to a little wider than shoulder width. (I used to think wide stance was the best but I get far more power out of the hole now so medium to close stance is the way to go for raw lifting I think)
I squat low bar so the arch (or at least keeping my back flat) is easy for me, I got the push your knee's out idea from dave tate and that has kept my knee's behind my toes and it helps me to activate my hamstrings and glutes allot more, also takes stress off my knee's and hips is seems.
A typical squat workout for me would be something like (if my max was 500)
Squat
135x4
225x3
315x3
405x1
455x3 push for 4 reps, fight to the death lol. (next week pick a different weight, like 405)
Stiff leg deadlift or goodmorning
135x5
185x5
225x5
275x5
315x5
365x6 failure
Leg Press
sets of 10 adding 1 plate per side until I get up to a weight I cant get for 10
Follow it up with abbs, and repeat every 3-4 days.
Thats where the bulk my my squat was made, then came smolov and knee wraps.
I have been benching 3 years squating and deadlifting off and on for 2 years.
I used to squat real wide box squats so I think that gave me a good set up, then I got hurt from squating wide and I moved my stance in to a little wider than shoulder width. (I used to think wide stance was the best but I get far more power out of the hole now so medium to close stance is the way to go for raw lifting I think)
I squat low bar so the arch (or at least keeping my back flat) is easy for me, I got the push your knee's out idea from dave tate and that has kept my knee's behind my toes and it helps me to activate my hamstrings and glutes allot more, also takes stress off my knee's and hips is seems.
A typical squat workout for me would be something like (if my max was 500)
Squat
135x4
225x3
315x3
405x1
455x3 push for 4 reps, fight to the death lol. (next week pick a different weight, like 405)
Stiff leg deadlift or goodmorning
135x5
185x5
225x5
275x5
315x5
365x6 failure
Leg Press
sets of 10 adding 1 plate per side until I get up to a weight I cant get for 10
Follow it up with abbs, and repeat every 3-4 days.
Thats where the bulk my my squat was made, then came smolov and knee wraps.
Thanks for that. So you'd go from 405 x 1 to 455 x 3?
What do you mean by push for 4 reps?
I squat just a bit wider than shoulder stance as well, with a low bar.
Don't usually do GM's but I think it's about time I do. Do you do a low bar position for that too?And do you keep the arch the whole way down?
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Sick lift, please tell me you have a new system for squatting now? Or was the idea to create something close to a monolift? Either way, what happens if you dump the weight?
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haha mega newb i remember following you from day 1 when u were just newb i think. Your gains have been great and your adolescent puberty ass is just mind blowing its great. Good luck and keep up the good work man. i love how you just throw that shit before your squat it made my day ha
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BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA! "Whoa, can you like, chill the hell out? Seriously..." Holy crap those two girls were priceless!
Dude, sick lift for anyone, regardless of age. I'll be honest, I wouldn't have been surprised/was kind of expecting you to cut it high, and I STILL woulda been impressed. But holy crap, from what i could see even the depth was good. Awesome lift
Join date: Apr 2008
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LUEshi wrote:
At this rate I'm gonna need a half decade to catch up to you, you little bastard.
What are you doing for bench?
For bench I have been makeing progress latley by doing 2-3 warm up sets and 1 heavy set to failure, then doing a back off set, nothing for shoulders or triceps.
I think I spent to much time over training my bench and I lost touch with that used to really work for me, doing 1 set to failure and and just working on putting reps on my work sets, what ever weight that I pick for that day.
I got caught up in all the special ways of training and thought I had to do somekind of special program to make gains, when all I needed to do was bench, I forget that I will continue to get naturally stronger as I get older, so I dont need any special shit.
swissrugby67 wrote:
Thanks for that. So you'd go from 405 x 1 to 455 x 3?
What do you mean by push for 4 reps?
I squat just a bit wider than shoulder stance as well, with a low bar.
Don't usually do GM's but I think it's about time I do. Do you do a low bar position for that too?And do you keep the arch the whole way down?
Cheers man.
Yes, I dont do much of a warm up, when I did 675 I did 135x5,225x3,315x3,405x2,495x1,585x1,675.
When I mean push for more reps I would put on lets say my old 3rm, and try to get 4 reps, which usually if you try harder, you can do. Squats are wierd like that, you have to do breathing squats tho.
I do low bar on goodmornings but thats only because it rolls down to far on my neck if I dont, I actally have the bar lower on my back in goodmornings than on squats because of this. All it does it let me use more weight on goodmornings, it still hits the muscles good.
I keep a arch of a very straight back the hole time, I tend to not have a arch at the top for some reason, but before I go down I get a arch.
On goodmornings I use as much weight as possible and only go a few inches further than I would on a squat, I never do much range of motion on goodmornings because the more range of motion the less weight I can use and I want those muscles to be used to as much weight as possible.
Most people go lower than me on goodmornings, I dont see the point unless Im doing them for my deadlift. Think about it, some people do goodmornings until their backs are almost paralel, if your going to do a max squat and you bend over so much that your back is almost at paralel to the floor your missed that lift either way.
They would have been better off training that first few inches of forward lean because once it gets further than that they are already screwed.
rsg wrote:
Newb, I am very much impressed - keep up the good work.
Edit:
Damn you Stronghold.
Thanks
hockechamp14 wrote:
Sick lift, please tell me you have a new system for squatting now? Or was the idea to create something close to a monolift? Either way, what happens if you dump the weight?
I just didnt want to walk 675 out, squating it is hard enough. The power rack had lower pins in it so It wouldnt have crushed me, but the pins were 5" to low so I would have had to jump out from underneath, (If I went to the pins I could have gotten hurt), which is why I moved the bench and dumbells.
Pipes06 wrote:
haha mega newb i remember following you from day 1 when u were just newb i think. Your gains have been great and your adolescent puberty ass is just mind blowing its great. Good luck and keep up the good work man. i love how you just throw that shit before your squat it made my day ha
Thanks man.
I have actually been catching shit for throwing the bench. To be honest, I never scream, grunt, throw stuff, or anything. The one time I did I got it on video and now people get the wrong idea.
Oh well...
KBCThird wrote:
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA! "Whoa, can you like, chill the hell out? Seriously..." Holy crap those two girls were priceless!
Dude, sick lift for anyone, regardless of age. I'll be honest, I wouldn't have been surprised/was kind of expecting you to cut it high, and I STILL woulda been impressed. But holy crap, from what i could see even the depth was good. Awesome lift
thanks for the link guys
Thanks
Im so glad I didnt hear it would have really pissed me off, after that the same girl went on to say something like (that was it? anyway.. blah blah blah like she see's it every day).
Anyway, Im glad it made her/anyone else, uncomfortable.
The coach was fine with it so its all good. My school gym is about as hard core as it gets around here, 4 power racks, 3 benches, 2 inclines, dumbells up to 100's tons of weights and 3 olympic platforms with 2 glute ham raises. And the coach lets us do what ever we want pretty much.
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