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Tiribulus
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I though this topic might be interesting and maybe provide some heads up data for future reference.
Here's a good one. I re-injured my right shoulder the other day working cable CURLS. Yes, you read that right. I have been doing cable curls from a low pulley sitting on my Smith bar facing into the machine which provides tension away from the body to the front. In other words the cable is at about a 45 degree angle away from me which is a great constant tension exercise.
On rep #9 I cranked it up hard and POP! A non excruciating, but distinct painful popping sensation in my right shoulder in the cuff exactly where I hurt it a couple years ago.
Of all the idiotic ways to hurt yourself who would think somebody would injure a shoulder doing curls. Clearly it was the angled tension that pulled it down and forward. I do these in a sort of sweeping cheating ROM sometimes bring the bar up to my forehead wihch is what I was doing this time.
I can't be the only person who has hurt themselves in highly unlikely ways like this. Now I'm nursing the damn thing all over again and I had it back to about 90% before this happened. SHIT! |
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SkyNett
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That blows man.
Being injured sucks, and especially if you were 90% rehab'd...
I'm sure I've hurt myself in some stupid ways, but I can't remember off the top of my head - oh yea, pulled my lower back once moving a bench - yes, not actually using the bench, just moving it...lol... |
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5.0
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What I find ridiculous are the injuries sustained when you feel you are doing everything right. Granted, working out by yourself doesn't leave any objectivity here...
I've been trying to heal a shoulder injury for eight or nine months now. There was no "event" to speak of, this just developed over time. This pain was caused by military presses, face pulls, bench press, regular and reverse curls and a multitude of other exercises. X-rays revealed no abnormalities and the ortho recommended physical rehab, which did didly-squat. I've been to the diesel crew site many times and incorporated their shoulder rehab program into what a physical therapist gave me.
Truth be told, I tried over the last two days the muscle snatch you posted from dieselcrew, which I overlooked. I'm hoping beyond hope I'm not jumping to conclusions, but I believe I've noted a remarkable difference in only two days of that protocol. I'm keeping my fingers crossed.
Thanks for posting that, Tiribulus. If that fixes my shoulder, I owe you.
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I hate it when I reach for a seatbelt in my car, or turn to get out of my car, and something snaps in my shoulder or back. It usually fixes itself in less than a week when this happens, but I makes you wonder when you spend your days lifting hundreds of pounds how these injuries can occur when no lifting is involved. Angles are right--that is the issue. |
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Tiribulus
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Member NJ-Polska sent me this one:
Hey, im not in the T-cell but i have a pretty good story for your thread if you want to post it up.
Didnt happen to me but i watched my friend do this.(i was to far away to help)
This kids DB benching the 120s in the HS gym. He gets 3 reps and hits failure, when he droped the weights he let go of the left one first and was pulled of the bench by the Db in his right hand. As hes falling he let go of the Db,it bounced off the ground and landed on his hand, crushing several bones. All of this took like half a second.
He now has 4 pins sticking out of his hand, we call him "Wolverine".
That's pretty good (bad?) too.
I'm gonna be 46 in a couple months so being aware and careful is a way of life. I ain't no kid no more, but curls? I hurt the other shoulder a while back doing lateral raises. I injured this one the first time doing barbell hacks. I separated a rib a few years ago trying to climb up the side of a skateboard ramp with roller blades on. I hurt my back, but not too bad at least, turning with 45 in my hands to put it away. Geez, ya pay attention and try to use your head and common training sense and get hurt when ya least expect it. |
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waylanderxx
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My buddy dropped a 120 pound DB on his foot the other day and broke his pinky toe. By far, one of the most hilarious things I've ever seen. |
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SSC
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Mine was pretty frustrating... Just happened last Thursday.
I strained/pulled/highly aggravated the hell out of somewhere near my mid/lower traps on my last rep of my last set of my last exercise of the day - Hammer Strength Shrugs.
Feels like it could be the infraspinatus / teres area. |
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Cephalic_Carnage
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Tiribulus wrote:
I though this topic might be interesting and maybe provide some heads up data for future reference.
Here's a good one. I re-injured my right shoulder the other day working cable CURLS. Yes, you read that right. I have been doing cable curls from a low pulley sitting on my Smith bar facing into the machine which provides tension away from the body to the front. In other words the cable is at about a 45 degree angle away from me which is a great constant tension exercise.
On rep #9 I cranked it up hard and POP! A non excruciating, but distinct painful popping sensation in my right shoulder in the cuff exactly where I hurt it a couple years ago.
Of all the idiotic ways to hurt yourself who would think somebody would injure a shoulder doing curls. Easy enough to put the bicep tendon crossing the shoulder in jeopardy there via rounded shoulders etc, as well as some of the cuff musculature depending on shoulder position and movement... I've had some really annoying pain in the past if I did DB presses or bench before the curls and went so heavy that my setup wasn't 100 percent anymore... If you think about it, curls and bench do stress quite a few of the same muscles and if you mess up on one before doing the other, well...
Fortunately, I've never gotten an actual injury out of all that.
Will be interesting to see BBB's comments on this. Clearly it was the angled tension that pulled it down and forward. I do these in a sort of sweeping cheating ROM sometimes bring the bar up to my forehead wihch is what I was doing this time.
I can't be the only person who has hurt themselves in highly unlikely ways like this. Now I'm nursing the damn thing all over again and I had it back to about 90% before this happened. SHIT!
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Cephalic_Carnage
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5.0 wrote:
What I find ridiculous are the injuries sustained when you feel you are doing everything right. Granted, working out by yourself doesn't leave any objectivity here...
I've been trying to heal a shoulder injury for eight or nine months now. There was no "event" to speak of, this just developed over time. This pain was caused by military presses, face pulls, bench press, regular and reverse curls and a multitude of other exercises. X-rays revealed no abnormalities No big surprise there... Regular X-rays don't show soft-tissue... Get an MRI before you end up shearing through some of the tendons in your shoulder via bad setup/exercise choices/imbalances...
You need to know what you're dealing with...
Muscle snatches, broomstick stretch etc are so successful because they address perhaps the most common shoulder issues lifters/benchers end up with (mostly anterior problems with the bi tendon etc, not ones such as posterior tightness which can happen as well, I had it from back squats but it surfaced on presses and all those regular prehab/rehab moves made it worse... ), but they don't cure everything and can actually do damage when used in the wrong situation... and the ortho recommended physical rehab, which did didly-squat. Can't rehab something if you don't know what it is... Unless, as said above, you get lucky by using a supposed cure-all like muscle-snatches and your problem is indeed one of those common issues which can be fixed by that exercise... I've been to the diesel crew site many times and incorporated their shoulder rehab program into what a physical therapist gave me.
Truth be told, I tried over the last two days the muscle snatch you posted from dieselcrew, which I overlooked. I'm hoping beyond hope I'm not jumping to conclusions, but I believe I've noted a remarkable difference in only two days of that protocol. I'm keeping my fingers crossed.
Thanks for posting that, Tiribulus. If that fixes my shoulder, I owe you.
Let's hope it does, but I'd still get an MRI if you can... It's worth it just to see how your shoulders are holding up after years of lifting. The revelations can be quite shocking (but useful, of course).
Some of the older bench-specialists at my gym recently went to get their MRI's, and even though neither really has any lasting pain, their bicep tendons are heavily damaged (so there's probably a setup issue or general imbalance or some such and grinding or so happens, or whatever other causes there might be), both in the one guy and one arm in the other guy's case. That plus a myriad of cuff injuries and whatnot.
One of the two has a torn supraspinatus in his right shoulder... He injured it when he fell years ago, and couldn't raise his arm up to the side past a certain point... But it got better over time (guess the delts/traps have learned to take over the motion completely? I don't train with him and have never seen him raise his arms, so no idea... They just ended up telling me because I'm the "setup-stickler" at the gym and they overheard me talking to others about bicep tendon injuries etc lol) and he thought it was fine again. May have messed up his tracking during the bench press/overhead press/laterals etc though, and thus the other injuries?
Anyway, the shoulder joint is annoyingly fragile... Even if your setup and execution is perfect 99% of the time, you mess up once and the results can be utterly catastrophic... Or maybe your setup and exec. (shit, maybe even diet or just general muscle balance) are often a little off, but perhaps not much... Well, that's enough to more or less grind a tendon over time until it becomes inflamed and the grinding gets worse or what-have-you...
Cybernetics research really needs to get their act together, we want cyborg shoulders! ;)
/edited... quote function... again...
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Cephalic_Carnage
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Guess this doesn't count as a "stupid" way to get injured (though my original attempts at fixing the issue were certainly stupid), and it's really not an uncommon issue (and not a true injury), but:
As mentioned in my previous post, I had some posterior tightness issues (shoulder capsule) which flared up esp. on DB benching... Got so bad I just couldn't do it anymore. I asked in a thread on here somewhere, and BBB chimed in with some ideas if I remember right.
Anyway, as mentioned before, none of the regular rehab/prehab moves helped at all... External rotation-based ones and face pulls and any kind of deep pressing motion etc made it worse until it would stay with me for hours.
So, one day I ended up wanting to bring up my (sumo) deadlift and decided to drop back squats for a time so I could focus on the sumo pulls more (they bring my squat up along anyway now that I've narrowed my stance some in both lifts).
I had had some shoulder discomfort when back squatting with my elbows nearly under the bar as usually done in powerlifting, but when I widened my grip and just accepted the slight loss in strength from that, the pain became almost non-noticeable... Usually when re-racking the bar, there was a slight flare-up and that was it.
Stupid as I am, I just accepted it (despite constantly telling other people never to accept any kind of "wrong" pain when training as "part of the game") then and never thought about it again.
Didn't make the connection until the issue practically disappeared over the course of 2 weeks... Went to do some lighter back squats with 60-70 percent of my max again just to test the theory, and sure enough, after a few sessions the pain began to come back.
Now, my shoulders mobility/ROM is actually pretty good from years of doing the broomstick stretch and moving my hands closer and closer together as well as from other stretches... I also didn't have those shoulder problems from squatting back when I was smaller... High-bar squatting helps some, but doesn't fix the issue... I guess esp. when squatting low-bar, the increase in upper back thickness that I've had coupled with the way you set up for a low-bar squat just caused the distance between bar and shoulder joint to increase so much that prolonged stabilizing of the bar in that position puts so much stress in the area that it ends up becoming tight and impinging stuff or so...
Right now, I'm back-squatting only very in-frequently and for very low reps with a higher bar position and trying to bring my pec minor/pec strength up (as I'm a tricep and shoulder -dominant presser and never cared much for the chest... No nice chest equipment available in years over here and I just hate BB-style benching... Plus I can use so much more weight with a closer grip... And dips have always felt awkward on the shoulders... Yeah :) I've focused so much on posterior strength and size, I figure strengthening the muscles which pull the shoulder forward might help some...
Ideas?
Thanks to BBB again for posting his comments on the issue back when I first asked about it.
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The Mighty Stu
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When I was in college in the early 90's, McDonalds had a special where you could get cheeseburgers for like 30 cents each, so of course I made the most of this. Somehow, I had left a couple in the backseat of my car, and one afternoon, was driving home from class and felt a bit hungry. Noticing a few burgers in the backseat from the previous weekend, and figuring that they were probably okay from the freezing Albany winter we were experiencing, I reached my right arm back while keeping my left on the steering wheel. Well, I may never know exactly what happened, by I felt something give way in my right shoulder, and actually ended up being unable to train for several weeks.
(oh yeah, I did eat the cheeseburger and got a stomachache to go with the bum shoulder -lol)
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"The key is to put it all in your groin and your back. Take your legs totally out of the equation. Lift with your lower back in a jerking, twisting motion." |
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DoubleDuce
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anonym wrote:
"The key is to put it all in your groin and your back. Take your legs totally out of the equation. Lift with your lower back in a jerking, twisting motion."
Family guy, awesome.
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Sumo deadlifting with a way-too-narrow grip... I felt an intense pain in my upper chest near the neck. Turns out I had dislocated my clavicle from the sternum. The bad thing is, no physician would ever try to put it back in place. I've got a partially dislocated S-C joint for the rest of my life I guess...thanks to not being smart (but thats usually the case). |
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sen say
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This wasn't in the gym, but...when we were first married She Say and I were fans of fucking in the shower...one day I got the bright idea to pick her up and lower her onto me...on the first 'bounce' my feet slipped on the wet shower floor and I ended up flat on my back...luckily She Say grabbed the curtain rod and stabilized herself or I fear my wang may have been severaly damaged...
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pat
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sen say wrote:
This wasn't in the gym, but...when we were first married She Say and I were fans of fucking in the shower...one day I got the bright idea to pick her up and lower her onto me...on the first 'bounce' my feet slipped on the wet shower floor and I ended up flat on my back...luckily She Say grabbed the curtain rod and stabilized herself or I fear my wang may have been severaly damaged...
You win....I was going to post, but this is the best hands down...Glad you cock made it out ok. |
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sen say
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pat wrote:Glad your cock made it out ok.
I think you speak for everyone on this site...
In the gym I haven't done anything ridiculous to hurt myself, but the three times I've hurt myself could've been easily avoided. I've pulled my back severely and ruptured my achilles because I went from working really hard and being very warm to taking an overly long break and then trying to jump right back in at my same level of intensity. This happened with my back to upright rows and my achilles playing squash. Third time I hurt myself was shooting for a deadlift PR and not taking the 'slack' out of the bar...I exploded big time into the weight and when the tension hit I felt/heard two vertebra 'pop'...
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The Mighty Stu
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sen say wrote:
This wasn't in the gym, but...when we were first married She Say and I were fans of fucking in the shower...one day I got the bright idea to pick her up and lower her onto me...on the first 'bounce' my feet slipped on the wet shower floor and I ended up flat on my back...luckily She Say grabbed the curtain rod and stabilized herself or I fear my wang may have been severaly damaged...
GEEZ,.. I winced just reading that!
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sen say
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The Mighty Stu wrote:
sen say wrote:
This wasn't in the gym, but...when we were first married She Say and I were fans of fucking in the shower...one day I got the bright idea to pick her up and lower her onto me...on the first 'bounce' my feet slipped on the wet shower floor and I ended up flat on my back...luckily She Say grabbed the curtain rod and stabilized herself or I fear my wang may have been severaly damaged...
GEEZ,.. I winced just reading that!
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You'll love this then...there is a tendon (I think it's a tendon) in your wang that can 'pop' something like 99% of wang injuries occur because a woman is on top and she comes 'off' the wang when she's on the upstroke and then 'smashes' the wang on the downward plunge because her va jay jay isn't lined up correctly...ergo it's very important if you get one that rides you like she's trying to go somewhere that you don't lose your focus and make sure she doesn't hit you with her taint (for example)..
Oh yeah...be on the lookout if you find a woman that thinks it would be 'neat' to go from being on top of you to 'flopping' as fast and aggressively as she can into 'pulling' you on top of her while not taking your wang out...snappage can occur... |
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sen say wrote:
The Mighty Stu wrote:
sen say wrote:
This wasn't in the gym, but...when we were first married She Say and I were fans of fucking in the shower...one day I got the bright idea to pick her up and lower her onto me...on the first 'bounce' my feet slipped on the wet shower floor and I ended up flat on my back...luckily She Say grabbed the curtain rod and stabilized herself or I fear my wang may have been severaly damaged...
GEEZ,.. I winced just reading that!
S
You'll love this then...there is a tendon (I think it's a tendon) in your wang that can 'pop' something like 99% of wang injuries occur because a woman is on top and she comes 'off' the wang when she's on the upstroke and then 'smashes' the wang on the downward plunge because her va jay jay isn't lined up correctly...ergo it's very important if you get one that rides you like she's trying to go somewhere that you don't lose your focus and make sure she doesn't hit you with her taint (for example)..
Oh yeah...be on the lookout if you find a woman that thinks it would be 'neat' to go from being on top of you to 'flopping' as fast and aggressively as she can into 'pulling' you on top of her while not taking your wang out...snappage can occur...
I read a story in Maxim about a dude who broke his pecker...It got better, but he had a fucked up pecker for a while. |
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In highschool, I once had a conversation with my youth pastor during the previews before Mission Impossible 3 about his friend that snapped a tendon in his dick doing the exact thing Sen Say just mentioned with the woman being on top. That was interesting. |
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waylanderxx wrote:
In highschool, I once had a conversation with my youth pastor during the previews before Mission Impossible 3 about his friend that snapped a tendon in his dick doing the exact thing Sen Say just mentioned with the woman being on top. That was interesting.
Did his dick ever work again? |
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Close call story but it would have ended ugly, injury or worse. I work out for the most part at home in my garage. I'm benching in the power rack. An unknown number of days before this session, I was apparently doing dips in the power rack. I do this by taking the safety bars and laying them across the top of the rack (front to back); I turn the pin/hook toward the outside and make sure to keep pressure in that diretion to keep the bars from sliding. With a bit of discipline and caution, it is a perfectly suitable alternative to a dip stand :) Fast foward to my benching session. I'm going thru a set, I rack the weight and I must have shaken one of the safety bars above (about 4 feet above) and this sucker is heading for my face. I'd like to tell you I displayed some ninja-like reaction and avoided the falling bar, but I was merely lucky and the bar did miss by a few inches - just luck. I'd guess the bar weighs around 7-10 lbs? Falling from 4 feet overhead onto your face or head would surely "leave a mark", if not worse. From that day forward, I've never forgotten to take the bars down from the top of the rack LOL. Scary what you can do to yourself working out at home. |
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sen say wrote:
The Mighty Stu wrote:
sen say wrote:
This wasn't in the gym, but...when we were first married She Say and I were fans of fucking in the shower...one day I got the bright idea to pick her up and lower her onto me...on the first 'bounce' my feet slipped on the wet shower floor and I ended up flat on my back...luckily She Say grabbed the curtain rod and stabilized herself or I fear my wang may have been severaly damaged...
GEEZ,.. I winced just reading that!
S
You'll love this then...there is a tendon (I think it's a tendon) in your wang that can 'pop' something like 99% of wang injuries occur because a woman is on top and she comes 'off' the wang when she's on the upstroke and then 'smashes' the wang on the downward plunge because her va jay jay isn't lined up correctly...ergo it's very important if you get one that rides you like she's trying to go somewhere that you don't lose your focus and make sure she doesn't hit you with her taint (for example)..
Oh yeah...be on the lookout if you find a woman that thinks it would be 'neat' to go from being on top of you to 'flopping' as fast and aggressively as she can into 'pulling' you on top of her while not taking your wang out...snappage can occur...
The woman I'm currently seeing had this happen to her ex. She said he felt a "pop" and had to stop. The next morning he woke up with blood in his boxers, and now requires the low-dose cialis pill.
Fuck. That. |
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