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arody169
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I keep reading all these articles in magazines/online that say, "in order to make real gains you need a high fat diet" and then a page later there is an article saying, "in order to make real gains you need a high carb diet". So which is it? For bulking which is better? For cutting which is better? For maximum muscle gain which is better? What should the p/c/f macros be? Are these just different people's different viewpoints or what? When do we do a high-carb and when do we do a high fat diet? |
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WestCoast7
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Use the search function and stop creating threads about basic information. These questions have already been thoughtfully discussed both in threads and in articles on this site. |
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Carlitosway
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Purely individual through trial and error. I'm a proponent of a "controlled carb diet". Meaning utilizing carbs when I feel necessary (especially mornings and after workouts to replenish glycogen and when overall looking/feeling flat and fatigued.
I mean there's no cookie cutter diet though, like I said. You do the foot work and try out different things. Scrap what doesn't work and move on. Eventually you'll tweak it just right.
I like cutting carbs off after 7 pm unless I'm working out that night...I'll have more good fats and protein if not training.
Days off I might just limit carbs to just the morning/noon. Depends on what I feel is necessary at the time.
Usually on back / legs day. I make it a point to get A LOT of carbs in. |
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arody169
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WestCoast,
I don't know if it is ignorance or stupidity that caused you to reply to this with such a moronic statement...But I believe I clearly typed that I have been reading (online, magazines, books) about both high fat and high carb diets and how both claim to be superior to the other. I am simply asking for input from people on a different level... |
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samdan
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arody169 wrote:
WestCoast,
I don't know if it is ignorance or stupidity that caused you to reply to this with such a moronic statement...But I believe I clearly typed that I have been reading (online, magazines, books) about both high fat and high carb diets and how both claim to be superior to the other. I am simply asking for input from people on a different level...
He was referring to the fact that these two diets have been talked about at great lengths on this site, hence a search could have gotten you a lot.
I'm able to function with almost no carbs at all, even when working out and so the Anabolic Diet is doing really well by me. High fat, High protein, 25-20g carbs per day.
As has been said, it depends a lot on your body. After my body became fat adapted, I could work out in the morning with zero carbs in my stomach (although there were 2-3 workouts on the transition that I duffed). Some people are unable to function without carbs. Search the forums, read some older threads, experiment, etc. |
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phatkins187
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I'd recommend balance and a caloric surplus. The effort in the weight room is much more important. |
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WestCoast7
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arody169 wrote:
WestCoast,
I don't know if it is ignorance or stupidity that caused you to reply to this with such a moronic statement...But I believe I clearly typed that I have been reading (online, magazines, books) about both high fat and high carb diets and how both claim to be superior to the other. I am simply asking for input from people on a different level...
I know you probably feel very knowledgeable now that you have surpassed the 5 post mark, but none of my response was either ignorant or stupid. If you would have spent even a tiny amount of time reading the articles on THIS site, not whatever online sources or silly magazines that you buy in hopes of achieving a muscular physique through having them in your presence, you would have found plenty of information that would have helped direct you towards an answer that would suit your individual goals.
Shut up and put up. The information is here, all you need to do is go put in the work. |
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Chi-Towns-Finest
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phatkins187 wrote:
I'd recommend balance and a caloric surplus. The effort in the weight room is much more important.
X2
I eat a balanced diet, although I do take in 2g/lb. of bodyweight.
Effort and intensity are much more critical though. |
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Gymjunkie
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VERY dependant on your insulin sensitivity. If you have good insulin sensitivity, you should stick to high carbs, lower fats and if not, high fats and low carbs.
A simple test, Poliquin suggests is to wake up, eat a super high carb breakfast and wait to see whether you are full of energy afterward or sleepy. If the later is the case, then you do not utilise carbs well and a high fats/pro will serve you much better.
Everyone is different.
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Oquendog
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phatkins187 wrote:
I'd recommend balance and a caloric surplus. The effort in the weight room is much more important.
x2.
However, I disagree with the latter comment, I saw the effort in the kitchen is more important in regards to body composition.
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