I have a guy friend who I think is a complete idiot when it comes to women and relationships.

A little background info: He's dated this girl on and off for a few years. He cheated, told her about it, and she dumped him. They didnt speak for quite some time until recently. Currently they are feeling the waters to see if there is a possibility for them to get back together. He says he's in love with her and realized that after she broke up with him.

He's a huge flirt and is pretty open regarding his female friends. She's not the jealous type so harmless flirting and female friends has never been an issue. She does it and has it herself. As a good faith effort he gave his email passcode to the girlfriend so she could see he wasnt doing anything wrong. He's an idiot because she found several emails and pictures that looked to be more than harmless flirting but didnt push the issue because she didnt feel it was right since she hasnt officially taken him back.


Okay, so the guy calls me last night with this scenario and couldnt understand why his girlfriend was pissed.

Him: I went to a bar last night and had a few drinks.
Her: Oh yeah? Have fun?
Him: Yes.
Her: Yes? Ive heard that "yes" before. What happened? You go alone or with a few of the guys.
Him: I went alone but I think I need to confess something but Im afraid you'll get mad and not talk to me again.
Her: Oh gawwwwd, what the hell have you done now?
Him: It's not that big of a deal. I wouldnt even call it cheating.
Her: Wouldnt call it cheating? What did you do? Allow a guy to suck your cock? (lol)
Him: Not exactly.
Her: Here we go again. Was wondering when this ball would drop. Let's hear it.
Him: I met a girl.

blah blah blah...

The conversation went on and basically ended in this...

He bought her a few drinks and after an hour or two they both realized there was an attraction. However, since they both were in relationships didnt think it was right to go all the way. So...they went back to his hotel and masterbated for eachother!!! According to him they never kissed, never touched. Just went to the room, grabbed a chair in front of each other, pulled down the old undies and went to town.

Personally, I think the guy has relationship issues and cant be trusted. In my opinion it's cheating. What's your take on it?

B-3

Mutual Masturbation is a game everyone can play, i love to watch a girl get off, i think he did nothing wrong

Absolutely cheated. He's a skank and can't be trusted.

It is a form of cheating. Sorry but I doubt you would want your girl to be getting naked in front of other men and masturbating for them.

Yeah it's cheating...and very lame. If they're going to all that trouble they should've just shagged and gotten it over with.

Sounds like I saw this one it had Stallone & Bullock in it

I dare say so! I've done my fair share of underpants handshakes and I will be the first to say it's a big deal. If you are in a relationship with someone and they find you showing off your kung fu grip then they may be in for quite a spook.

100% cheating. I'd be pissed if my gf did that... and I know she'd be equally pissed. As soon as you are looking to others for sexual or emotional reasons that you should bring to your partner, you are being dishonest.

Long Answer = Anytime sexual arousal is involved with someone who is outside the (bf/gf or hus/wife dynamic)relationship, and one of them even remotely thinks that the relationship is exclusive (his gf), and the other person doesn't honor that nor instructs them to the contrary (the jerkoff)--then there is cheating going on. You can't have your cake and eat it too unless all parties are on the same page.

Short answer = He cheated

CHEATUR!

Cheating. Mutual self-service is still very intimate, and intimacy with another is cheating.

Idiot. (human, but an idiot if he actually cares about the would-be gf. Grow up and grow some self control, will ya?)

Yep - He cheated.

The guy sounds like he needs to pull himself together and set himself some standards.

I would like for the record though to say that it was not me on the phone to B-3 last night.

yeah, it is.

The thing I notice is that this guy seems to want to get busted, he tells her after cheating once, that he did it again.....and is suprised she is pissed !

Also this is cheating! Now had he watched her tweak it then went in the restroom to rub one out would we be having this conversation (like a peep show)?

Well, I'll give him credit (assuming he's not lying... which he is) for trying to find a loophole.

Was he in a different zip code than his girlfriend?

Just kidding. He cheated.

If he came he cheated

What!

B3 are you the "friend?"