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jlutz3
Level 1

Join date: Dec 2008
Location: Michigan, USA
Posts: 189

Hey what's up everyone? I'm just coming off a successful 6 month bulk. I'm loving the size i've packed on except for the fat in my belly/gut area. I began the bulk being fairly lean so the only fat i've gained went to my midsection.

I'm now at 6'1 and 208 lbs...I began the bulk with WS4SB and have been doing a 5 day split the past 2 months and NO cardio at all. My goal now is to shred the belly fat i've gained and maintain as much size as possible. So what do you guys suggest as I've never really tried or even had to "lose fat."

I'd like to stay up around the 200lb area because I look good at this weight. I've estimated my maintaining calories at about 3500 because i've been there for about 3 weeks not losing or adding any weight. So would you suggest maybe going down to 3200 calories and adding cardio?

I was thinking maybe still eating the same amount of calories, just lower carbs and higher protein and fat? Looking for advice...like I said I'd like to stay around the same weight, just lower my bodyfat %. Thanks guys.

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jehovasfitness
Level 4

Join date: Jan 2006
Location: Maryland, USA
Posts: 8546

Gain more weight, believe me, you'll regret it if you don't.

Gain more, then cut down later.

I'd maybe just add in some moderate cardio.

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ayork90
Level 0

Join date: Jul 2008
Location: Massachusetts, USA
Posts: 95

umm, get bigger???

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zraw
Level 4

Join date: Jun 2008
Location: Quebec, CAN
Posts: 900

If you wanna look good at 200 i'd say get your weight to about 215-220 depending on how lean you currently are and how lean u wanna be

but 200 for 6'1 is kinda small..

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Growing_Boy
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Join date: Apr 2007
Location: California, USA
Posts: 4535

IMO, anybody at least 6' needs at least 220lbs depending on body structure. Anything taller, 240lb or better. That's so you look like you workout.

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waylanderxx
Level 3

Join date: Mar 2008
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Posts: 5858

Trust me keep gaining. Us guys over 6 ft really need lots of muscle to look great. I don't care how good your genetics are. There are no guys like 1morerep who are 6'1-6'2 who look jacked at a lower weight. Our frames are just too large.

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tengen10
Level 2

Join date: Jan 2009
Location: Maryland, USA
Posts: 82

No matter what choice you make, just stick with it, and do it with commitment. Don't cut halfway, but don't bulk if you are going to feel shitty the whole time because of excess body-fat, that is a surefire way to make thinks worse.

Sorry I can't really say anything useful :/

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Invictica
Level 1

Join date: Jul 2008
Location: British Columbia, CAN
Posts: 1007

at 208 with a gut, you can't cut to 200 and look good. You need to be around 220+

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Growing_Boy
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Join date: Apr 2007
Location: California, USA
Posts: 4535

waylanderxx wrote:
Trust me keep gaining. Us guys over 6 ft really need lots of muscle to look great. I don't care how good your genetics are. There are no guys like 1morerep who are 6'1-6'2 who look jacked at a lower weight. Our frames are just too large.



Yip, can't say that better myself.

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skohcl
Level 4

Join date: Aug 2008
Location: Oregon, USA
Posts: 441

Great job on the bulk and extra weight! Start doing cardio, and if you want to lean up then reduce your cals more, just don't crash diet and you should be fine.

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Carlitosway
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Join date: Dec 2007
Location: Michigan, USA
Posts: 2143

If I were in your position. I'd just say still eat big. Yet add in some cardio on off days or days you're real sedatary lol.

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Rape Weight
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Join date: Mar 2009
Location: California, USA
Posts: 564

Keep bulking, throw in some HIIT, and try to find more of an equilibrium in your caloric intake.

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LiveFromThe781
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Join date: Aug 2007
Location: Massachusetts, USA
Posts: 10876

Growing_Boy wrote:
IMO, anybody at least 6' needs at least 220lbs depending on body structure. Anything taller, 240lb or better. That's so you look like you workout.


im 6 ft and people knew i worked out with a shirt on since i was below 190

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austin_bicep
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Join date: Sep 2007
Location: New York, USA
Posts: 2614

LiveFromThe781 wrote:
Growing_Boy wrote:
IMO, anybody at least 6' needs at least 220lbs depending on body structure. Anything taller, 240lb or better. That's so you look like you workout.

im 6 ft and people knew i worked out with a shirt on since i was below 190


x2 except im 6'2, but now the compliments and noticing is even greater weighing 240

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rrjc5488
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Join date: Jan 2005
Location: California, USA
Posts: 10448

These guys don't know what they're talking about.

You're done.

You win.

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hawaiilifterMike
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Join date: Jan 2009
Location: Hawaii, USA
Posts: 1062

Look at Gus's thread http://www.T-Nation.com/...8&pageNo=0, he went from 210lbs to 173lbs in his transformation. Unless you are way leaner than Gus was at your current 208lbs body weight, you will need to lose a lot of weight to come close to a six-pack.

Depending on how much bodyfat you have, as the other posters suggested you should bulk up some more at least 20+ pounds, (if you want to maintain your current size and be ripped at the same time).

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therajraj
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Join date: Dec 2008
Location: Ontario, CAN
Posts: 245

Summer is quickly approaching, do you really want to continue bulking when you'll have to walk around shirtless on the beach? Just something to think about.

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Professor X
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Join date: Oct 2002
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rrjc5488 wrote:
These guys don't know what they're talking about.

You're done.

You win.


Agreed. Destination reached.

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Professor X
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therajraj wrote:
Summer is quickly approaching, do you really want to continue bulking when you'll have to walk around shirtless on the beach? Just something to think about.


Do you really want to walk around 5 years from now wishing you had actually let your body adjust to a higher weight because you wasted half a decade being more concerned about abs than whether you actually gained any muscle?

Just something to think about.

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jehovasfitness
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Join date: Jan 2006
Location: Maryland, USA
Posts: 8546

Professor X wrote:
therajraj wrote:
Summer is quickly approaching, do you really want to continue bulking when you'll have to walk around shirtless on the beach? Just something to think about.

Do you really want to walk around 5 years from now wishing you had actually let your body adjust to a higher weight because you wasted half a decade being more concerned about abs than whether you actually gained any muscle?

Just something to think about.



no kidding. I would hope that was sarcasm above, probably not though huh

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matsm21
Level 4

Join date: Mar 2005
Location: New York, USA
Posts: 819

if you actually do lean out, you'll be amazed at how much fat/size you'll lose. at your current weight, I think you'll be dissapointed.
edit: just add some cardio in slowly if anything

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facko
Level 3

Join date: Nov 2005
Location: Florida, USA
Posts: 851

I think its time for you to consider a heavy anabolic cycle. It's the only way.

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kylec72
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Join date: Nov 2008
Location: Arizona, USA
Posts: 401

therajraj wrote:
Summer is quickly approaching, do you really want to continue bulking when you'll have to walk around shirtless on the beach? Just something to think about.


Yeah, because who would want to make any amount of sacrifice for real results? I say fuck it too; diet right away to get those abz for the beach. Screw whatever goals you were working towards; it's all about looking good on the beach. This guy - http://www.baywatch.com/...ch-04_large.jpg - never bulked and look how well it turned out for him... http://img.dailymail.co.uk/...fXP_468x476.jpg . You can do it, buddy!

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crod266
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Join date: Dec 2007
Location: New York, USA
Posts: 1729

bulking shouldnt be like a special thing that u only do certain times, unless ur specifically trying to loose weight you should always be eating enough to grow lol

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davidtower
Level 4

Join date: Nov 2005
Location:
Posts: 244

I'll tell ya....I've had an eye opening and humbling experience recently....

I went from 168 to 192 in the past 5 months or so.....not amazing but I didn't gain too much fat. Clueless people at work call me "huge" hahahahah. I'm 5'10"

I decided recently to slowly lean out and see what I'd look like at 8% or so. Well I'm now at 182 without even really trying (just stopped trying to gain weight and maybe lost a little water weight from no creatine) and I already look smaller and not even close to being 8%...more like 10%

So if I continue to cut down....I'd probably have to be back at freakin 168 to be truly lean!!

Granted I look much bigger and better than I did before but it's like "WTF...what did I just bust my ass for?"

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