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myself1992
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Join date: Feb 2009
Location: Florida, USA
Posts: 157

I invite you to post your routines just for the hell of it, i think it would be productive if T-Nation members knew how fellow members train

this is my routine

Tuesday: Leg/Chest Squat 5x5
Bench Press 5x5
Power Clean 5x5
Dips 3x10
Deadlift 2x5

Thursday: Back/Shoulder Chinups 5x5
Press 5x5
Bent over dumbbell rows 3x10
Upright Rows 3x10
Rear Delt Pull 3x10

Saturday: Oly lifts/accesory Snatches 5x5
Clean and Press 5x5
Calf w/e i feel like doing
Rotator cuff 3x10

I train my grip on wednesdays with a heavy gripper and play soccer 4 days a week for 2-3 hours

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myself1992
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Join date: Feb 2009
Location: Florida, USA
Posts: 157

my goal is to improve my body for my sport while also trying to pack on some size, post your goals and w/e you want

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Artem
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Join date: Mar 2008
Location: Illinois, USA
Posts: 2179

I don't really care how you train at 182 6'. We had this exact thread 2 weeks ago. Use the search.
cool hair Meduza

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jzzz
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Join date: Feb 2009
Location: Australia
Posts: 320

Artem wrote:
I don't really care how you train at 182 6'. We had this exact thread 2 weeks ago. Use the search.
cool hair Meduza


then don't read it, an drop the ethug attitude while your at it.

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LiveFromThe781
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Join date: Aug 2007
Location: Massachusetts, USA
Posts: 10876

does anyone else think the shot of the dudes abs to the right looks like an elephants face?

the nipple is the eye

the left ab wall is the trunk

the serratus is the ear

and the rib things are the tusk

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Artem
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Join date: Mar 2008
Location: Illinois, USA
Posts: 2179

jzzz wrote:
Artem wrote:
I don't really care how you train at 182 6'. We had this exact thread 2 weeks ago. Use the search.
cool hair Meduza

then don't read it, an drop the ethug attitude while your at it.


I'd just like to point out how much more your post contributed to this thread than mine.

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jzzz
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Join date: Feb 2009
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You also pointed out that you are a bit of a tool.

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G87
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1) Looks like Saturday is a wasted day for you as far as gaining size goes. Oly lifts, as a rule, are NOT the fastest way to get big. Neither is rotator cuff work.

2) Tuesday seems like too much. Squats and bench.. AND power cleans, AND deadlifts, AND dips?

3) If I were you, I'd just do something like Madcow/Bill Starr's 5x5, to be honest. I'm sure there's also plenty of 3-a-week strength plans on this website.

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Teledin
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Join date: Apr 2009
Location: Australia
Posts: 46

Monday - Chest & Tri's
Flat Bench Press - 5 sets
Incline DB Press - 4 sets
Weighted Dips - 4 sets
Incline DB Flyes - 4 sets
Close Grip Bench - 4 sets
Tricep Pushdowns - 4 sets

Wednesday - Back & Bi's
Pull-Ups - 4 sets
Lat Pulldown - 4 sets
Deadlift - 4 sets
Compound Row machine - 4 sets
One arm t-bar rows - 4 sets
Concentration curls - 3 sets
Hammer curls - 3 sets
Reverse curls - 2 sets

Friday - Legs
Back squats - 4 sets
Leg Press (45 deg) - 4 sets
Leg Extensions - 4 sets
Lying Hamstring curls - 6 sets
Calf Press - 3 sets
Seated calf raises - 3 sets

Saturday - Shoulders & Abs
Seated overhead DB presses - 3 sets
Arnold press - 3 sets
Incline bench side lateral raises - 3 sets
Rear delt cable flyes - 3 sets
Bent over rear delt flyes - 3 sets
Cable crunch - 5 sets
Cable side bends - 5 sets
Decline crunches - 5 sets

Also do some cardio in between the week. Typically a couple of 20 minute HIIT or Tabata sessions.

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Bloobird
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Join date: Jun 2008
Location: England
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Teledin wrote:
Monday - Chest & Tri's
Flat Bench Press - 5 sets
Incline DB Press - 4 sets
Weighted Dips - 4 sets
Incline DB Flyes - 4 sets
Close Grip Bench - 4 sets
Tricep Pushdowns - 4 sets

Wednesday - Back & Bi's
Pull-Ups - 4 sets
Lat Pulldown - 4 sets
Deadlift - 4 sets
Compound Row machine - 4 sets
One arm t-bar rows - 4 sets
Concentration curls - 3 sets
Hammer curls - 3 sets
Reverse curls - 2 sets

Friday - Legs
Back squats - 4 sets
Leg Press (45 deg) - 4 sets
Leg Extensions - 4 sets
Lying Hamstring curls - 6 sets
Calf Press - 3 sets
Seated calf raises - 3 sets

Saturday - Shoulders & Abs
Seated overhead DB presses - 3 sets
Arnold press - 3 sets
Incline bench side lateral raises - 3 sets
Rear delt cable flyes - 3 sets
Bent over rear delt flyes - 3 sets
Cable crunch - 5 sets
Cable side bends - 5 sets
Decline crunches - 5 sets

Also do some cardio in between the week. Typically a couple of 20 minute HIIT or Tabata sessions.


That's a hell of a lot of volume you've got there.

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Lancey
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Join date: Sep 2008
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myself1992 wrote:
I invite you to post your routines just for the hell of it, i think it would be productive if T-Nation members knew how fellow members train

this is my routine

Tuesday: Leg/Chest Squat 5x5
Bench Press 5x5
Power Clean 5x5
Dips 3x10
Deadlift 2x5

Thursday: Back/Shoulder Chinups 5x5
Press 5x5
Bent over dumbbell rows 3x10
Upright Rows 3x10
Rear Delt Pull 3x10

Saturday: Oly lifts/accesory Snatches 5x5
Clean and Press 5x5
Calf w/e i feel like doing
Rotator cuff 3x10

I train my grip on wednesdays with a heavy gripper and play soccer 4 days a week for 2-3 hours



I´d revise this
Is there a particular reason you want to do the oly lifts?
Your Tuesday session has too much lumped together for consistent progression IMO, then you train your grip the day before you train back, which isn´t ideal

I you only want to train 3 days a week, try a two-way split

Just a few thoughts I had when I saw your routine

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Teledin
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Join date: Apr 2009
Location: Australia
Posts: 46

Bloobird wrote:
That's a hell of a lot of volume you've got there.


I've been training for nearly 3 years now. Tried a lot of different routines and found volume is what gets me the best response in terms of lean mass growth. The above is just my 12 week change up routine. Typically I will hit 5 days a week in the gym and have the following set ranges:

Chest - 20
Back - 25
Legs - 30
Shoulders & Abs - 15 & 10
Biceps & triceps - 12 to 15 each

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SkyNett
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Join date: Sep 2004
Location: New York, USA
Posts: 1422

Sure - why not?

Right now, it's this -

Day 1 - Chest/Tri's
1)Flat Barbell BP 5x5
2)Incline Dumbbell Press 5x5
3)Close Grip BP 5x5
4)Skull Crushers 5x5

Day 2 - Back/Bi's/Rear delts
1)Barbell Rows 5x5
2)Dumbell rows (bench supported)5x5
3)Rear delt dumbbell raises 5x5
4)Barbell curls 5x5 (I generally add a drop set at the end)
5)Dumbbell hammer curls 5x5

Day 3 - Legs
1)Barbell Squats 5x5
or (usually alternating weeks)
Machine squats 5x5
2)Stiff-legged DL w/barbell 5x5
or
Deadlifts 5x5 (again, usually alternating weeks)
3)Calf raise - 3x15-20

Day 4 - Shoulders/Traps
1)Seated military BB press 5x5
2)Delt triad superset consisting of 3 sets of 12 - 15 reps. A)Seated dumbbell side raise/front raise/press x 3
3)Shrugs (bb or Db) 5x5

Sometimes I do more reps if I feel like it, so it's not a strict 5x5 program, but for the most part that's where it's at for me at this time...

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WS4JB
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Join date: Feb 2006
Location: Ohio, USA
Posts: 4014

Artem wrote:
I don't really care how you train at 182 6'. We had this exact thread 2 weeks ago. Use the search.
cool hair Meduza


Artem, cool your jets man, remember where you were a year ago, you've made good gains, added quite a bit of weight, but you're still young, lets show some more respect buddy.

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GDI Inc
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Join date: Mar 2009
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Posts: 130

I'm hitting each body part once a week on a 5 day split. I do 4-5 miles walking on a slight incline on the 2 off days.

Shoulders-

Hammer Shoulder Iso- 2 working sets, if I get 5 or less second working set I do a drop set.

Hammer Military machine- 2 working sets, 15,12...this machine isn't close to 300lbs with the stack...and the dbs at my gym only go to 85lbs.

Shrugs- 2 working sets, 15, 12

Side laterals- 2 working sets, 10, 8

Reverse Pec Dec- 2 working sets 10, 8


Back

Hammer Front pulldown- 2 working sets, 5 or less second working set and I break it down.

Hammer Low Row- 2 working sets 15, 12

Hammer MTS row- 2 working sets 10, 8

Neutral grip front pull downs- 12, 10

Seated cable rows- 15, 15

Weighted Hypers- 20, 20, 20, 20

Chest

well I'm injured here, but previously it was...

Hammer Incline- 2 working sets, less then 5 second set, break it down.

Hammer Wide Chest- 2 working sets, 12, 12

Incline flyes- 12, 12

flat flyes- 12, 12

Pec dec- 2 as many as I can get

Arms-

DB curls- 10, 8

Hammer Preacher- 10, 8

Incline Curls- 12, 10

Life fitness iso curl-15, 15

Hammer Dips seat high- 10, 8

french curls- 12, 10

Tricep push downs- 8,8

Life fitness tricep extension-15, 15


Legs-

Leg Press- 15, 12

V Squat- 10, 8

Leg Extension- 15, 12

Leg curl- 12, 10

looking to work in lunges or stiff legged DLs...but I'm still to gassed to add a fifth exercise...might never get there...I'm going to swap out leg press and V squat for squats and stiff legged DLs soon.

I do abs and calves alternating days.

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the_next_arnold
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monday i do chest calves
tues back abs
wed legs
thurs shoulders abs
friday arms calves

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myself1992
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Location: Florida, USA
Posts: 157

G87 wrote:
1) Looks like Saturday is a wasted day for you as far as gaining size goes. Oly lifts, as a rule, are NOT the fastest way to get big. Neither is rotator cuff work.

2) Tuesday seems like too much. Squats and bench.. AND power cleans, AND deadlifts, AND dips?

3) If I were you, I'd just do something like Madcow/Bill Starr's 5x5, to be honest. I'm sure there's also plenty of 3-a-week strength plans on this website.


sadly i need some power work on saturdays or whenever i can get it done for my sport, if i didn't have shoulder problems from time to time maybe i wouldnt do the rotator cuff work, squats and bench.. AND power cleans, AND deadlifts, AND dips isn't really too much. remember you are not me and your goals and methods don't apply to me

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Growing_Boy
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Location: California, USA
Posts: 4535

Id have to kill you all...

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myself1992
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Join date: Feb 2009
Location: Florida, USA
Posts: 157

Artem wrote:
I don't really care how you train at 182 6'. We had this exact thread 2 weeks ago. Use the search.
cool hair Meduza


I know its great right i can tell you how to make it yourself

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Artem
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Join date: Mar 2008
Location: Illinois, USA
Posts: 2179

myself1992 wrote:
Artem wrote:
I don't really care how you train at 182 6'. We had this exact thread 2 weeks ago. Use the search.
cool hair Meduza

I know its great right i can tell you how to make it yourself

I'm getting dreads, but fuck it, tell me anyways.

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bignate
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Join date: Jun 2008
Location: Massachusetts, USA
Posts: 1699

monday
DE bench 6x2
neutral grip db flat press 6x8-12
shoulder press variation 4x8-12
incline bench 5x10
rear delt work 4x12, supersetted with cuff work

tuesday:
squats (close stance)
4x8, adding 10-20 pounds a week till reps drop to 3, i started over with 135 fixing my form finally!
snatchs (power) work up to 3-4 sets of 2
leg press 4x8-15
extension (single leg) alternating sets of 12
leg curl work up to a heavy set of 8
db row 6x8
calves
hammer's

wed off
thursday:
front box squat, same as squat reps
power clean, work up to a double then reduce weight work on explosion/form
legpress-same
leg curl 3x20 (keep knees healthy and pump blood into muscles)
lat pulldown 4x6-12
calves
hammer's


friday:
banded pin press work up 3x3
decline close grip 5x4-6
shoulder variation 5x5
incline neutral grip db's 5x10-15
rear delt/cuff work

saturday: banded rack pull work up to 4x2
snatch grip deads 3-4x10, increasing weight weekly till reps drop below 5
db row: 6x6-20, pyrimid in weight
pullups if i still have energy
reverse grip curls

sunday: off

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BSrunner
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I'm surprised by the amount of "chest/tri, back/bi, arms, shoulders/abs" routines I'm seeing from posters on this site.

From everything I have ever really read on this site, people recommend doing complex lifts that involve a lot of muscle, doing more than just one leg day a week, and rarely isolating your arms for an entire day. They say it is a different story if you are a competitive body builder (and have the body of one) because half an inch on your arms can make or break a competition, but they also say that the best way to build muscle and lose fat is to NOT work out that way.

I'm sure I don't know as much as some of you, but I am confounded by the amount of people I see doing those isolation/volume routines that minimize the amount of legs you do.I used to do a similar program and I saw almost zero gains, but when I switched it up to rippetoes I started seeing huge gains.

Any thoughts on this?

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Cephalic_Carnage
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BSrunner wrote:
I'm surprised by the amount of "chest/tri, back/bi, arms, shoulders/abs" routines I'm seeing from posters on this site.

From everything I have ever really read on this site, people recommend doing complex lifts that involve a lot of muscle, doing more than just one leg day a week, and rarely isolating your arms for an entire day. They say it is a different story if you are a competitive body builder (and have the body of one) because half an inch on your arms can make or break a competition, but they also say that the best way to build muscle and lose fat is to NOT work out that way.

I'm sure I don't know as much as some of you, but I am confounded by the amount of people I see doing those isolation/volume routines that minimize the amount of legs you do.I used to do a similar program and I saw almost zero gains, but when I switched it up to rippetoes I started seeing huge gains.

Any thoughts on this?


Articles do not equal real life.
Edit: also, if you don't actually know how to set up a useful split and don't eat enough, then nothing will come off it.

Usually, few people do well when doing something like:
BB curls 4*12 straight sets
DB Curls 4*12 straight sets
Preachers 4*12...

That's basically a high volume routine and will make it very difficult to gain strength fast enough for you to grow at a good rate.

If those were all ramped instead of straight sets, it'd be a completely different story...

Also, you train your legs once a week.
You train your chest once a week.
You train everything but your weak parts (maybe) once a week.
How is that "limiting the amount of legs you do"?

They receive the same attention all other muscle-groups receive...

You don't need 2-3 leg days a week in order to get big/strong legs. You CAN however have 2 or so leg days, you'd just have to do a lot less work per session then...


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patrickk
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Join date: Jan 2009
Location: Armed Forces - Europe
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I do a 4 days on 1 day off routine. The gym I work out in is pretty busy, so the exact exercises change sometimes. But I keep it to about 3-5 exercises per muscle group.

Day1: Chest/shoulders
BB Bench
Standing Mil. Press
Rear Delts
Incline DB Press
Fly's
Shrugs

Day2: Legs
Squats
Press
Extensions
Calves(lots)
Lunges
Those girly machines...

Day3: Bi's/Tri's
Curls
CGBP
Curls
Pushdown
Curls
Dips

Day4: Back
Weighted Pull-ups
Deadlifts(lots-my favorite)-9k pounds of volume today
Kroc Rows
Hammer Strength Low Rows
Good Mornings/SLDL's

Day5: Rest
Mind Benders x Elevendy

I've been running this routine for about 4 months now. But not necessarily the same exercises/rep schemes the entire time. Put on 10 pounds of Muscle memory and 20 pounds of new weight. The weight is gaining really easy too. It's not the best, but it works for me.

Edit: Mostly all ramped sets.

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G87
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myself1992 wrote:
G87 wrote:
1) Looks like Saturday is a wasted day for you as far as gaining size goes. Oly lifts, as a rule, are NOT the fastest way to get big. Neither is rotator cuff work.

2) Tuesday seems like too much. Squats and bench.. AND power cleans, AND deadlifts, AND dips?

3) If I were you, I'd just do something like Madcow/Bill Starr's 5x5, to be honest. I'm sure there's also plenty of 3-a-week strength plans on this website.

sadly i need some power work on saturdays or whenever i can get it done for my sport, if i didn't have shoulder problems from time to time maybe i wouldnt do the rotator cuff work, squats and bench.. AND power cleans, AND deadlifts, AND dips isn't really too much. remember you are not me and your goals and methods don't apply to me


You are right; I am not you. On the other hand, you make it sound like you're more unique than you really are. Most people would pick 2 big lifts, and then stick to accessory work for them on any given day. If you show me someone who got strong on squats, deadlifts, bench press and power cleans by doing them all on the same day, well, I'd be very surprised.

Lancey basically said the same thing. I doubt it's a coincidence.

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