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pro-a-ggression
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Fuck yeah i did. This aint a praise thread, unless ya want it to be, ALL HAIL WAYLANDERXX bringer of carbs to the masses, or to create his own mass(es).

I joke. This is a thread for people to see how the big fucks do it. Your edging on being the biggest on T-Nation atm, though i hear your cutting your carbs, so come on spill your words of wisdom, or even answer some Q's for us.

Whenever the fuck you first started training, how were you training? What were you eating? I know you advocate splits, so, how'd ya do it?

Points ive gathered from you so far:

*Up the carbs, lots and lots.
*Heavy weights, squats, deads, get as strong as possible
*Train splits, and splits only. You can get strong on splits ya know!
*Take advantage of college food, its there, so eat it.
*Drink ya god damn milk, eat ya potatoes, sweet potatoes, rice, etc.
*Oh, and SQUAT!

So let me start the Q's:

*When you initially began, you ate and ate, thats a given, but how'd ya train? How many days? Rep ranges? Excercises etc.

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Growing_Boy
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Did you play with Tonka trucks when you were a kid?

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Growing_Boy
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Seriously, how old were you when you started and what was your average weight gain from then to where you are now? Whatever the case you're a fucking freak bro.

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phatkins187
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Yeah I'd be interested in seeing a breakdown of your split...why the hell you cutting carbs man, you're already pretty lean!

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LiveFromThe781
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<---- wondering how many people know Waylander actually does cub cartoffs

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waylanderxx
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haha thanks for the thread pro ;) Not sure if I'm deserving, but I'll do the best I can to answer any questions.

Btw GB answer my PM ass!

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waylanderxx
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pro-a-ggression wrote:
Fuck yeah i did. This aint a praise thread, unless ya want it to be, ALL HAIL WAYLANDERXX bringer of carbs to the masses, or to create his own mass(es).

I joke. This is a thread for people to see how the big fucks do it. Your edging on being the biggest on T-Nation atm, though i hear your cutting your carbs, so come on spill your words of wisdom, or even answer some Q's for us.

Whenever the fuck you first started training, how were you training? What were you eating? I know you advocate splits, so, how'd ya do it?

Points ive gathered from you so far:

*Up the carbs, lots and lots.
*Heavy weights, squats, deads, get as strong as possible
*Train splits, and splits only. You can get strong on splits ya know!
*Take advantage of college food, its there, so eat it.
*Drink ya god damn milk, eat ya potatoes, sweet potatoes, rice, etc.
*Oh, and SQUAT!

So let me start the Q's:

*When you initially began, you ate and ate, thats a given, but how'd ya train? How many days? Rep ranges? Excercises etc.


Okie Dokie I'll start from the beginning...

I started lifting when I was 15 years old for football, and to make a long story short our coaches made us train total body style and it DID ABSOLUTELY NOTHING FOR ME!!! Let me repeat...NOTHING!

I got stronger, then platued constantly and didn't look like I lifted IMO.

So what I did initially was said w/e I'm doing this my way...So I started training every morning before school and then I had to do football workouts MWF. Back then I was an idiot and squatted like once every 2 weeks and spent most of my time doing upperbody, and I'm still paying for that. I did a lot of benching and curls haha. Surprisingly even though I was lifting anywhere from 9-10 times a week and then having football practice I started getting bigger. I still ate poorly at this time, I was all about the "get ripped" ideal and wasn't eating enough.

Well, my senior year I just said Fuck it, I'm getting as big as I possibly can. I told the coaches I wanted to do things my way and they let me have free reign on my lifting schedule.

So I started splitting things up I think it was something like this...
M:arms
T: chest/back
W:arms
Th:legs
Fr:chest/back
Sat: shoulders

Still not optimal but it worked well for a while. Well in my quest to get big after every workout I would have a muscle milk shake and then go eat a burger king double whopper every workout, no exceptions. Well I did this for the entirety of my senior year and I blew up pretty quick. I still hold the bench record at 350 lbs hah, I think I graduated at 230 lbs or so.

Then came college...I had the unlimited meal plan meaning I could eat whenever I wanted, as much as I wanted (until they closed at 7 pm, FUCKERS haha). That was really the turning point. I remember last year I would drink 24 glasses of skim milk a day along with 6 big ass meals, my appetite is pretty insatiable lol. Well that worked well, and this past summer I weighed in at around 248 lbs. This year I still followed the eat everything in sight plan, b/c lets face it 248 lbs just isn't enough. So I kept drinking all that milk, except I made it 2%, and eating the same amount of meals. Except now when 7 pm rolled around my dinner was 2 personal pepperoni pizzas and a half gallon of whole milk, and if I was still hungry before bed I would have a mass gainer shake. Following this diet I reached my highest of 280 lbs (pretty clean IMO), but I was getting very tired easily and out of breathe so I decided to diet down a little bit and I'm sitting right under 270 right now.

I'll make a new post about my current training split haha, sorry so long!

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waylanderxx
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Growing_Boy wrote:
Seriously, how old were you when you started and what was your average weight gain from then to where you are now? Whatever the case you're a fucking freak bro.


First to address Pro's bullet points that he listed, yes I firmly believe in all of those things. I've had to cut out deadlifts and back squats due to some back issues but I still do heavy rows and front squats, so I'm not missing out IMO. If you are physically able to you should either be performing those exercises or an equally effective variation.

GB I started at 160-165 around 5 years ago and reached 280 this year, so it's been a pretty consistent 15-25 lbs a year.

My current training split is this:

M:Triceps/biceps/calves
T: Quads/Hams
W: Chest/calves
TH: Back
F: shoulders/calves
S: Quads/hams

I've been taking sundays off lately, which is something I never used to do, and I'm liking it, so a 6 day split it is.

And I am cutting carbs at the moment because all of my fat is in my love handle/lower back area. This means my insulin sensitivity is very poor and along with it being possible to cause some health issues the main thing is that it will be difficult for me to continue to gain muscle without gaining more fat.

For as long as I can remember I've eaten in the range of 850-900g, if not more, of carbs so I am dropping them to around 200-250 while increasing fats and protein so I can correct that. It's probably going to be a 6-8 week recomp, nothing serious like a contest diet. Just clean eating, and unfortunately cardio lol.

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waylanderxx
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Growing_Boy wrote:
Did you play with Tonka trucks when you were a kid?


Hell yes I did hahaha

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That One Guy
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waylanderxx wrote:
pro-a-ggression wrote:
Fuck yeah i did. This aint a praise thread, unless ya want it to be, ALL HAIL WAYLANDERXX bringer of carbs to the masses, or to create his own mass(es).

I joke. This is a thread for people to see how the big fucks do it. Your edging on being the biggest on T-Nation atm, though i hear your cutting your carbs, so come on spill your words of wisdom, or even answer some Q's for us.

Whenever the fuck you first started training, how were you training? What were you eating? I know you advocate splits, so, how'd ya do it?

Points ive gathered from you so far:

*Up the carbs, lots and lots.
*Heavy weights, squats, deads, get as strong as possible
*Train splits, and splits only. You can get strong on splits ya know!
*Take advantage of college food, its there, so eat it.
*Drink ya god damn milk, eat ya potatoes, sweet potatoes, rice, etc.
*Oh, and SQUAT!

So let me start the Q's:

*When you initially began, you ate and ate, thats a given, but how'd ya train? How many days? Rep ranges? Excercises etc.


Okie Dokie I'll start from the beginning...

I started lifting when I was 15 years old for football, and to make a long story short our coaches made us train total body style and it DID ABSOLUTELY NOTHING FOR ME!!! Let me repeat...NOTHING!

I got stronger, then platued constantly and didn't look like I lifted IMO.

So what I did initially was said w/e I'm doing this my way...So I started training every morning before school and then I had to do football workouts MWF. Back then I was an idiot and squatted like once every 2 weeks and spent most of my time doing upperbody, and I'm still paying for that. I did a lot of benching and curls haha. Surprisingly even though I was lifting anywhere from 9-10 times a week and then having football practice I started getting bigger. I still ate poorly at this time, I was all about the "get ripped" ideal and wasn't eating enough.

Well, my senior year I just said Fuck it, I'm getting as big as I possibly can. I told the coaches I wanted to do things my way and they let me have free reign on my lifting schedule.

So I started splitting things up I think it was something like this...
M:arms
T: chest/back
W:arms
Th:legs
Fr:chest/back
Sat: shoulders

Still not optimal but it worked well for a while. Well in my quest to get big after every workout I would have a muscle milk shake and then go eat a burger king double whopper every workout, no exceptions. Well I did this for the entirety of my senior year and I blew up pretty quick. I still hold the bench record at 350 lbs hah, I think I graduated at 230 lbs or so.

Then came college...I had the unlimited meal plan meaning I could eat whenever I wanted, as much as I wanted (until they closed at 7 pm, FUCKERS haha). That was really the turning point. I remember last year I would drink 24 glasses of skim milk a day along with 6 big ass meals, my appetite is pretty insatiable lol. Well that worked well, and this past summer I weighed in at around 248 lbs. This year I still followed the eat everything in sight plan, b/c lets face it 248 lbs just isn't enough. So I kept drinking all that milk, except I made it 2%, and eating the same amount of meals. Except now when 7 pm rolled around my dinner was 2 personal pepperoni pizzas and a half gallon of whole milk, and if I was still hungry before bed I would have a mass gainer shake. Following this diet I reached my highest of 280 lbs (pretty clean IMO), but I was getting very tired easily and out of breathe so I decided to diet down a little bit and I'm sitting right under 270 right now.

I'll make a new post about my current training split haha, sorry so long!


Fuck I need to get that unlimited meal plan. Over here at UT they give us this bullshit debit card kinda thing. It's like they want you to run out before school ends...but I digress. Lookin forward to the rest of this thread.

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waylanderxx
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pro-a-ggression wrote:
*When you initially began, you ate and ate, thats a given, but how'd ya train? How many days? Rep ranges? Excercises etc.


Figured I'd elaborate on this a bit more.

The TBT workout I mentioned earlier was bench press,squat,powerclean every monday, wednesday, friday along with some useless assistance work.

They used to make us do walking lunges on boards that were 2 inches wide, I mean what the fuck? Idk how many times I fell on my ass.

It was all 5x5 which I loved and incorporated into my earlier routines I created. That rep range worked great early on, I just didn't respond to that training style, once I used it in a split it worked great.
I changed to a more conventional bodybuilding split style later on.

I understand there was some misunderstand when I mentioned this earlier. When I do my compound lifts, i.e BO rows, squat, bench press, military press, BB curls etc. I ramp my sets, usually 10,8,6,6 and the last set is the only working set

All of my "assistance" work is done with 4 working sets usually 8-12 reps.

I usually do 5-6 assistance exercises per workout as well, so when it's all said and done I probably do 25 working sets per muscle group.

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waylanderxx
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LiveFromThe781 wrote:
<---- wondering how many people know Waylander actually does cub cartoffs


only the past 4 days ;)

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Cephalic_Carnage
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Funny, you have basically the same story as bauer (coaches forced you to do full-body stuff, you started doing your own training at first in addition and then exclusively etc...)
And you're both volume-freaks ;)

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waylanderxx
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Cephalic_Carnage wrote:
Funny, you have basically the same story as bauer (coaches forced you to do full-body stuff, you started doing your own training at first in addition and then exclusively etc...)
And you're both volume-freaks ;)



haha let's hope one day I can look as good as him

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Cephalic_Carnage
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waylanderxx wrote:
Cephalic_Carnage wrote:
Funny, you have basically the same story as bauer (coaches forced you to do full-body stuff, you started doing your own training at first in addition and then exclusively etc...)
And you're both volume-freaks ;)



haha let's hope one day I can look as good as him


Where's he, anyway? Haven't seen him post in ages now...

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waylanderxx
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Cephalic_Carnage wrote:
waylanderxx wrote:
Cephalic_Carnage wrote:
Funny, you have basically the same story as bauer (coaches forced you to do full-body stuff, you started doing your own training at first in addition and then exclusively etc...)
And you're both volume-freaks ;)



haha let's hope one day I can look as good as him

Where's he, anyway? Haven't seen him post in ages now...


who knows, probably one of the many victims of the constant trolling haha.

Aight fellas I'm off to the gym so if you guys have anymore questions I'll be happy to answer them when I get back!

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Iron Dwarf
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Good thread. I was wondering about you Waylander. You're 19, right? Such potential!

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Growing_Boy
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Don't know what kind of back issues you've encountered Waylandah but when I had my run in I was basically crippled for 3 weeks. My chiro took care of me and my checking account and I'm sorta back to normal now. To the point that I'm doing heavy rack pulls again and I'm shooting for 405 later this year. What did you do?

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phatkins187
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Do you track your calories/macros? Eat more or less on different training days? What are your supplements and which have worked the best for you?

Do you train your abs explicitly? Is the reason you train your calves so much because they are a lagging bodypart?

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kickureface
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So is that really you in your av?

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That One Guy
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Yep, waylander is actually IFBB pro Toney Freeman. Cheeky bastard!

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WS4JB
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kickureface wrote:
So is that really you in your av?


yup, Way is a 40 something African-American IFBB champion.

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WS4JB
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That One Guy wrote:
Yep, waylander is actually IFBB pro Toney Freeman. Cheeky bastard!


Damn you!

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waylanderxx
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phatkins187 wrote:
Do you track your calories/macros? Eat more or less on different training days? What are your supplements and which have worked the best for you?

Do you train your abs explicitly? Is the reason you train your calves so much because they are a lagging bodypart?


I've never tracked calories or macros and don't really plan on it unless I am contest dieting. I have a pretty good idea of what I am eating, I don't feel the need to track my diet that closely.

If the appetite is there, I will eat. I don't specifically try to eat more or less when I am not training but it usually ends up being probably 1k less calories since I am not having a pre or post workout shake. Aside from that everything is the same.

I never train abs, they are already huge lol they don't need to get any bigger. I'm probably at 13-14% bf right now and I can flex in the mirror and see all 6. One habit I developed from 7th grade is I flex my abs at all times. When I'm walking around, sitting, doing w/e (except sleeping lol). So they have pretty much been constantly worked for 7 years and I've never had to do abs b/c of that I reckon.

Yes my calves blow huge balls. I didn't train them until midway through my first year in college so they are like 3 years behind all my other body parts.

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waylanderxx
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Iron Dwarf wrote:
Good thread. I was wondering about you Waylander. You're 19, right? Such potential!


yup 19 still.

Thanks man, let's hope I can live up to it ;)

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