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Perfect Rep for Ectomorphs?
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thenewmaradona
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Join date: May 2009
Location: England
Posts: 19

Hey Coach

What would be the most effective way for someone with a predominantly ectomorph body type to gain muscle mass?!

If, for example, you had an ectomorph as a client, how would you go about it...

Obviously the perfect rep is important but would you split your sessions up for body parts (chest, shoulders etc...) or would you do use whole body sessions and train 3 days per week?

Thanks in advance!

Jamie


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sstewart22
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Join date: Dec 2009
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I have similar question. My max force 3 reps start to tap out around 65% of my 1 RM, although I can usually still get 5 or six with equal/greater acceleration at this point. I know. It sounds strange. but then if i keep adding weight, acceleration completely stalls, or drops to only the first rep.

This effect is more pronounced on certain exercises (particularly pushing, squats, standard deads) than others (pulling, RDL's). For some reason, I seem to be able to maintain "intensity" through six reps if the weight is appropriate, and am thinking of working 6+ sets in that range, with maybe one extra effort sets at the end (ie after ramping to a peak 4 reps).

Thanks for any response.

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Christian Thibaudeau
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Individuals with long limbs might have a harder time producing a high force level since their range of motion is longer. But from experience this is mostly a neural issue. Once that the nervous system is efficient (can take longer for long limbed individuals because it takes more intra and intermuscular coordination) then everything will unlock.

The problem is that 90% of the people out there are not willing to accept spending more time with lighter weights, working on being as explosive as possible.

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Eric Buratty
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Join date: Aug 2009
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The problem is that 90% of the people out there are not willing to accept spending more time with lighter weights, working on being as explosive as possible.[/quote]

That's right . . . This isn't ego-building; this is body-building!

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thenewmaradona
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Join date: May 2009
Location: England
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Thanks guys!

The ego thing isn't a problem so all should be fine with a consistent effort all round.

I'm pretty sure that I need to improve neural efficiency. (Particularly in my upper body if it is possible to break it down that far)...

I was a soccer player for years up until recently and have always trained legs as a priority whilst stupidly (but i suppose commonly) neglecting my upper body. - The neural inefficiency in my upper half would explain the lack of strength and muscle mass up top, obviously not helped by having a naturally lean 'ectomorph' frame on top of that.

Was just wondering if there was a particular combination of days training that would be most effective most of the time...

All good!

Again, thanks!

jamie

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Ocelot82
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Join date: Aug 2009
Location: Washington, USA
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Christian Thibaudeau wrote:
Individuals with long limbs might have a harder time producing a high force level since their range of motion is longer. But from experience this is mostly a neural issue. Once that the nervous system is efficient (can take longer for long limbed individuals because it takes more intra and intermuscular coordination) then everything will unlock.

The problem is that 90% of the people out there are not willing to accept spending more time with lighter weights, working on being as explosive as possible.


Thanks for making this thread and thank you for the reply CT. This thread really hits home for me. I'm at 182 up from 157 in August, I've put on a little belly fat which is ok b/c 20 of those pounds probably went to my legs, ass, and back.

My limbs are fairly long for my height and weight but it's been getting much better as I go.

Thanks again guys.

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pelham32
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Join date: Jun 2009
Location: North Carolina, USA
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Christian Thibaudeau wrote:
Individuals with long limbs might have a harder time producing a high force level since their range of motion is longer. But from experience this is mostly a neural issue. Once that the nervous system is efficient (can take longer for long limbed individuals because it takes more intra and intermuscular coordination) then everything will unlock.

The problem is that 90% of the people out there are not willing to accept spending more time with lighter weights, working on being as explosive as possible.



Yeah I'm two days into the top bottom specialization two a days focusing on bench and full squat. I'm 6'4 and by using the perfect rep guidelines my max force limit ends around 245 on the squat even though my 3 rep max is 285. I usually lower the weight to about 215 and auto regulate the 5 sets 5. But as far as being exlplosive and trying my best on the SRP twitch turnaround I'm loving it.

I didn't know i could squat this much without getting run down(6 times a week), but the autoregulation and Surge Workout Fuel Surge Recovery and Anaconda combo are certainly helping. three more weeks of this and i'm off to basic training for the air force, hopefully i won't lose most of my gains...

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