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My left Quadratus Lumborum is jacked. I think it's because I carried my heavy gym bag (full of groceries) home the other night, slung over my right shoulder. I got a rugby match this Saturday.
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Hey Eric. I was wondering if you had any suggestions on how to sleep on your back. I've pretty much always slept on my side, and it's definitely taking its toll on my shoulders. When I lay down now, I put two pillows under my knees so that my spine is more neutral and I feel really comfortable, but my habit of sleeping on my side negates the fact on forces me to roll onto my side, even though it hurts to sleep like that!
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Hey Eric.
I'm a rugby player here in NZ. I'm 21 and currently obviously play in the men's grade. My problem is my upper body strength is seriously lacking. My chins are pretty decent, but my pushing power/strength is sad. My squat, DL are 145kg and 170kg respectively. My powerclean is just at 85kg - I started earlier this year. The highest I ever hit on bench was 100kg, and that was only twice this year. Otherwise I seem to be stuck on triples with 85kg-ish. My military press is 60kg for sets of 5, which I'm alright on. My question is, what are some of the most common weaknesses you see which result is lack of upper body pushing power? I ask because I'm suffering when I play really physical teams and my coach has told me I'll be eternally injured if I don't address this.
I'm 5'10ish
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Also, I have one of those long legged and long armed, but short torso bodies. I also have clear rounding of the shoulders which I'm working on. But frankly, where I live there's nobody qualified to seek advice from. |
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AtleticoMadrid wrote:
Eric,
If you were working with a client who had blood pressure issues, how would you approach foam rolling? Would you allow it with that client and just monitor him a bit more closely? Are there any particular things that you'd be certain to avoid? I'm assuming anything with breath holding is out, but I'm curious if there are other things that are crucial to be mindful of with this type of person.
Assuming they had been cleared by a doctor for this type of exercise, I'd start them with one of the entry level white rollers, which tend to be more "forgiving:"
http://www.performbetter.com/..._E_43?kbid=1186
And I am not sure if you'd deem this type of question as meriting coverage in your website newsletter, but I'd be interested in hearing your general thoughts on the TRX and something I've seen (you may have seen them by this or another name) called battling ropes. It would be great to hear your take on where you feel that these tools may be most effective and where they might be missing the mark. The TRX seems like a useful piece that certain people just get a bit too enamored of and carried away with at times (focusing on quantity over quality, trying to get a bit too creative with things instead of getting strong with the basics, etc.), and the ropes seem like they have some potential for conditioning and core stability but also lend themselves to a lot of repetitive humeral flexion, which seems less than ideal for a fair percentage of athletes.
But I am a relative novice and you are an industry expert, so perhaps you can devote a bit of coverage to these items in the future. And if this is not a feasible thing for you to do, thanks anyway, and I appreciate you even entertaining the idea.
We actually had Chris Frankel from TRX in to our facility to do an in-service with my staff; it was fantastic. While these certainly aren't the cornerstone of our training system, they afford us a ton of variety and convenience in programming, and we're using them quite a bit (one at each rack). You can read my review here:
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ThetfordMiner wrote:
EC,
Is there any benefit to executing a prone knee-to-knee stretch for hip IR?
Yes, but we do it as a mobilization (prone windshield wipers). This would be more worthwhile with someone with capsular restrictions. More on that coming soon here:
http://ericcressey.com/...the-new-project
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nz6stringaxe wrote:
Hey Eric,
I'd first like to tell you how inspirational you are to me as I work my way into the fitness industry. Functional movement has become quite a passion of mine!
Here's my problem; I think I may have a fairly textbook case of lordosis.
First, could you recommend a basic self-test to make sure my suspicion is correct?
If so, what corrective measures would you take in order to solve such a problem?
Thank you so much for the contributions!
Nick
Thanks for the kind words.
Check out the Neanderthal No More series here at T-Nation. Postural photos are likely your best bet.
Our upcoming product (Assess and Correct) would be a great investment for you. See the post right above this response...
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Reg Dunlop wrote:
Mr. Cressey,
When a muscle is stiff but not truly adaptively shortened, is this stiffness primarily a result of the CNS? And if so, would PNF stretches help if stiffness needed to be reduced before a training session or would dynamic mobility drills likely get the job done?
They certainly wouldn't hurt, but the best long term solution is to stabilize the synergistic muscle that isn't doing its job.
If a muscle has actually become shortened, can extended static stretching alone without any soft tissue work help "regain" some of the length or would you likely get little to no change without soft tissue work? I ask this because my brother currently does not have the dough for professional work, and certain areas he finds just do not respond quite as well to self work as others, so I was wondering if static stretching alone can still provide some improvement or if it is a case of stretching above and below "the knots" as opposed to actually impacting the tissue that needs it most.
Yes, long duration static stretching can help. Strength training at end-range has also proven effective.
http://www.manualtherapyjourna...
In the case of muscles that have become adaptively shortened (in the case of my brother some by a significant margin), would extended static stretching have to be "all in one shot" or can it be have the intended effect if the total volume is there but the duration per stretch is more brief. Example: 1 long stretch in a relaxed position held for minutes at a time (if I recall Mike Robertson once mentioned holding some positions for up to something like 20 minutes) versus a high(er) volume of stretching for a given area throughout the day even though each stretch lasts no more than 30-60 seconds?
Both have some merit, but I'd prefer the one long hold.
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Hi,
I'm a 14 year old pitcher/catcher. I am familiar with Ron wolforth's stuff, and have access to a gym with virtually everything. What do you think would be the best workout for me?
I really don't know much about training, but I know you need a recovery day in your week? What would be those things you should do on that day besides the foamrolling? Any specific stretches?
Also- I know you suggest 3xweek for med ball throws? Do youadd any plyos into your workout too, like twice a week?
I want to thank you too for answering this many questions, you're really helping people, and now I'm going to read them all, ha.
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Eric,
Over the last couple of weeks, I've been getting pain in my right shoulder/down the right humerus on external rotation. I first noticed this about two weeks ago; I did some band external rotations and got some mild discomfort, and then experienced the same thing on the bench press ("pull the bar apart"), after which it stayed for a day or so and then went away. I cautiously tested "pull the bar apart" a week later and still got the discomfort, but it went away if I didn't concentrate on the cue.
Yesterday was light Box Squat followed by PRs on Press and Deadlift. Now it hurts any time I externally rotate the shoulder (unless I tighten up my back - "squat position") and acts up a bit even when I don't. The pain starts at the back of the shoulder (on the humerus, from what I can tell) and runs down the back/side of the humerus (anatomical position) between the tricep and bicep. It's most severe if the elbow's at about 135 degrees.
Do you have any idea of what this could be or recommendations for who to see to determine what it is?
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On a similar note, if I do GHR without taking a relatively wide stance (or if I use any appreciable) weight, my left hamstring tendon (medial, at the knee) starts to hurt. Is this a common issue? |
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Hi, Eric.
I have two questions that I'd like to ask you.
1) A lot of times coaches will debate how to use things like thick grip training or "less stable" versions of big bang movements (i.e. a 1-arm 2-point row or 1 DB bench press versus a chest supported row or barbell bench press or in bodyweight exercise terms, a push-up with 1-leg elevated versus a regular push-up with added load). Some say not to get caught up in thinking that the thick grip or less stable versions because there is no decrease in the overall training effect, while others say that they might detract from the overall effect and should be used after a main movement has already been performed. What are your thoughts on how to "properly" program these.
2) I hate to "throw in" such a broad topic for question number two, but when it comes to maintaining normal ROM of the spine, is it necessary to (at least periodically) flex and extend the spine (including the lumbar spine) in order to maintain necessary ROM at each segment? This wouldn't be under loaded conditions, of course, and it would avoid pushing the envelope at end range. For example, I think I recall saying that you and Mike would not include the Cat/Camel move now as you did when MM2 originally came out. I am just curious if training mostly for stability and rarely, if ever flexing the spine (e.g. limiting T-spine flexion work or cutting it out, and avoiding lumbar flexion) could lead to excessive stiffness over time.................I suppose what I am getting at is if many positive thoughts with regard to maintaining spinal health can be taken too far and actually end up becoming a detriment in their own right?
I've noticed that in things like Gray Cooks FMS and SFMA, there are portions that assess the ability to flex the spine in standing (something that is not recommended to be performed regularly or long term, but which is said to be a necessary capacity of the spine and hence why it is assessed).
Are there actually times in specific cases where flexing the spine and in the process stretching the entire back including the lower back might actually be needed?
And on a somewhat related note (at least in terms of things most coaches automatically contraindicate), can windshield wipers/rainbows (upper body fixed and rotating legs from side to side) or even a hanging leg raise version ever be performed, or should these just e permanently tossed out? I see most discard them and say they are terrible for the spine and of little value, anyway, but is this a case of those movements always being bad for anyone, or just for enough people that the coaches don't mind making a blanket pronouncement against them? |
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Eric Cressey wrote:
Yes, long duration static stretching can help. Strength training at end-range has also proven effective.
http://www.manualtherapyjourna...
www.EricCressey.com
EC,
When you say strength training at end range, would this mean doing something like EQI's?
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Hey Eric,
I have a super interesting problem to solve and would like your assistance!!! Well maybe not super interesting but I certainly do have a strange problem. its sufficiently strange that I could find nothing on Google on the topic, so if you can solve the problem, you get mad props for being the first to do so!!! Exited yet? In Suspense yet? Well it gets better!!! I am going to phrase my problem in such a way as to increase the suspense by waiting until the end to reveal the detail that turns an ordinary problem into a strange one!!! And so the problem begins:
I can only deadlift 355 pounds once but I can squat 365 for five. Sounds like a clear case of squat more than deadlift right? The standard answer to this is: you either are squatting too high or your grip sucks. Seeing as I squat high bar atg, a illegitimate squat isn't the cause for the disparity. Grip however, is the issue, when I try to deadlift weight past my current max, I can get to the weight within an inch or two of lockout when bar decides to roll out of my hand. The grip failing prior to lockout and my higher squat tells me that my posterior chain is strong enough to lift the weight but my grip is holding me back. Just train my grip then right? Therein lies the problem.
My grip isn't amazing but it should be enough to hold weight past a measly 355. I can close a heavy grip 200 lb gripper(I assume it is similar in resistance to a Captains of Crush #2) for 4 reps with my right hand and 3 reps with my left hand. For pinch grip, I can pinch four ten pound plates with each hand.
Here is the kicker everyone has been waiting for, when my grip fails, the bar always rolls out of my right hand, the stronger hand. At first I was confused, but then I realised the cause. When I was 7, I broke my left arm at the elbow. When the arm healed, it healed so that the forearm and upper arm were at different angles than the right arm, nothing extreme mind you, but noticeable. The effect this has is that fully extended, my left arm is 3/4 of an inch longer than my right, when holding a bar, the right end of the bar is almost 2 inches higher than the left. So even though my right hand is stronger, the undue stress the twisting of the bar causes makes the grip fail way sooner than it should.
So Eric, What do you recommend to fix my problem?
Thanks in advance for any help. Sorry for the sales pitch tone of the writing, the humour I derive from writing that way helps me cope with the frustration of the issue. |
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Eric,
I went through and read some of your articles on deadlifting and I have an issue with lumber rounding at the bottom of my deadlift. I have been working on hamstring and calf flexibility with Myofacial release and static stretching. I do lower back strengthening (I could probably stand to do more). My feet generaly turn out in a postural exam as well. Any ideas on mobility work or technique work to fix this? |
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Coach C -
I was wondering what amount of reps you prefer for pitcher when DB bench pressing? |
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Hey Eric,
Ever since one of my squatting sessions three weeks ago, a muscle somewhere around my hip flexor above my right leg has been bugging me. I've stopped squatting temporarily because of this, but have continued to deadlift because it doesn't cause any discomfort.
The muscle hurts when I do a bodyweight squat when I hit about parallel and also when I lift my leg up in front of me and to the right. The pain is not too bad, but I don't want to risk a more serious issue. It has not been getting much better the last couple weeks. Is there anything I can do to speed up the healing process? |
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hey
Got a quick question for you, i hurt my shoulder about 3 weeks ago, i went to the sports doctor at my school and he said i had a biceps tendon strain. I rested it for a while and start getting back to working it out, including some corrective exercises like external rotations, but it still doesn't feel right. Not sure if that means i need to give it more time or it's just weak from the injury. any thoughts or recommendations. |
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also, if a vid of me doing certain hand motions or moving the shoulder in a certain way. or some pictures would help i can get some on easily, just let me know
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Hi EC,
An osteopath has informed me thoracic spine is lacking a kyphotic curve from about t3 to t5/6 and that these segments are lacking mobility, which leads to compensation in the segments above and below. I've also been told to go easy on pull-ups and rowing.
Are there any mobility drills or corrective exercises that you think would help to solve the problem? It's a very frustrating situation as I can't load my spine and without the pull-ups and rowing it's become hard to find exercises to fill my workouts, so any advice would be greatly appreciated.
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Eric,
For an athlete who has the luxury to train twice a day, what do you think of having him do heavy more neurally taxing training in the AM then doing explosiveness/speed training in the PM? For example:
AM: heavy deads, squats, presses, along with some accessory work for those muscle groups
PM: speed pulls, speed squats, jump squats, box jumps, speed bench, med ball throws, sled/prowler work for speed/conditioning work
Do you have any other good ways to split up the training for an athlete who can train twice a day?
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Mr Cressey:
I saw your contribution in the article "From the trenches", about the guy with the hip problem. I cannot see why his squatting form was that bad. I squat mostly like this, semi wide stance, knees out, etc.
I've tried to follow the "Starting Strenght" book, and I am very confused, because I have a right hip pain on and off and I'm scarred because I thought my squat form was okay.
I'd like to know why this guy form was so bad in the video, because for me... it was not that bad.
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Mr Cressey:
I need some help on a matter. I have been working out for about a year now and I have made great strides in my physical fitness. This coming summer I will be "beach ready".
Keeping that in mind, my wife is... well, out of shape. She has been supporting me and I am grateful but I've noticed that she has been drinking beer and sitting on the couch alot.
I need to get her motivated but there is a problem with that. She doesn't eat right, she refuses to give up drinking (she's tried to give it up in the past but to no avail), she doesn't like protien powders and she doesn't like pushing herself. I offered to train her but she declined.
I don't know what else to do or who else to ask. It just seems like the more in shape I get, the more upset I get at her for not doing something about herself. She complains quite alot about her body having problems due to her weight but she continues to do nothing about it. Can I get some advice, please
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Eric,
My lumbar portion of my erector spinae are hypertonic (with great form my lower back starts hurting from just light warmups 100~lbs for dead lifts and 70~lbs rows). I have been doing lumbar stretches before workouts but they haven't seemed to help. I was wondering if you have written about a protocol to rehab this or if you could give me one.
Thanks EC!
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Hey Eric, I have 2 quick questions for you, if they were already asked sorry I must of missed them in this thread. First would be that I cant seem to get into some of the Neanderthol No more articles, the 4th and 5th ones to be exact. Do you know why this is, or have somewhere else that I can read them. Also I wanted to let you know that I am a HUGE fan of the foam roller and use it everyday. My question is that I like to do some core foam roller work(leg lifts, arm extensions) just to get back to zero after abusing my back all day.First would you think Id benefit more doing these exercises at the end of the day or in the morning, second Would you suggest doing stretching before or after I do these exercises. When I was in college I had to do an entire semester of rehab for my back becasue of football and they made me do the strengthining/lifting before the stretching, but I didnt know if you had a different opinion on the matter. Thanks
I guess basically I'm just asking what sequence you would do strengthining, stretching, mobility, and core in... |
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nells7 wrote:
Hi Eric, I'm a big fan of yours from Italy,I'm trying to keep always updated on your articles on T-Nation 's website.I'm writing you to ask you what you think about my injury .I ve done an X-ray examination ,and i've found that i had a little crushed vertebrae(L5-S1).So I've done some physiotherapy sessions and the pain seems to be gone,but i feel like my hips should be fixed;there are some positions where i feel my right hip bone cracking a little bit.I don't feel any acute pain ,but i think that i need to be "fixed".
if i really want to start again some intense workout. Here is an example, when i'm lying down on the back with the right knee bent, if i drop the knee down i feel my pelvic bones cracking.I've asked this same question to another physical therapist ,and he said that it should be a pelvic misalignment.
I know that it's difficult to evalueate my condition from just what i ve told you,but i think that any opinion from your point vue would be much appreciated !
Recently i've buyed a copy of your Magnificient Mobility dvd , i found it very interesting.Do you think that i should start doing some exercises?
If you know any articles that would be useful for my situation ,please let me know that.
Thank you very much for your attention!
Bye
Gabriele
P.S Sorry for my bad english
Would be completely outside my scope of practice to work with you on this, given the medium (internet) and your situation. I'd encourage you to find a qualified professional in your area. |
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tigrvision wrote:
Eric,
what are your thoughts on this exercise as far as correcting pronation. It seems that you would need to do more than just tell your body to correct itself, more like exercises to correct those weak muscles that are allowing the pronation.
http://www.healthline.com/...-pronation.html
Exerpt:
Fast Fitness - Fix Flat Feet, Pronation, and Fallen Arches
Friday, April 04, 2008 Jolie Bookspan, M.Ed, PhD, FAWM
Here is Fast Friday Fitness - feel how your own muscles work to hold arch support, so that you can have healthy arches without artificial shoe arch supports or orthotics, which weaken the supporting muscles from disuse:
Stand with feet parallel and look in a mirror where you can see your feet, or just look down.
Pull outward until your arches rise and restore, and your ankles are straight
Use this as your new natural position, gaining built-in muscle strength and arch stability with each step you take.
Click the arrow to see the short movie made for us by reader David from Belgium. First he allows his weight to shirt inward, pushing his arch flatter toward the floor. Then at seconds 3 to 4 in the movie, he uses the outer muscles to pull to straight neutral ankle position. At seconds 8 to 9 he allows the arch to sag again, then simply restores and holds a healthy arch from second 13 onward.
Remember, don't force. If it hurts, it's wrong. All you are doing is standing neutral, not tilted so much that you compress your joints. The concept is to hold your feet in the same healthful position that shoe supports would. It is like an ice skater holds their skates straight at the ankle, not angled.
Legs and feet have posture that you can control yourself. Use your own muscles and get free built-in exercise and arch support all day, and stop painful poor positioning.
I guess the main issue I have with this is that it undermines the fact that pronation is a crucial part of normal human gait. Some is normal, but too much, too fast, or at the wrong time is a problem.
Looking at things as a "static" postural model ignores this...
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