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FutureGL
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So maybe this should be on the roids section... ah screw it
Did anyone catch the mtv truelife "i'm on steroids"? It was actually pretty well done IMO. It follows three guys juicing:
1. Fitness model preparing for photo shoot
2. MMA fighter getting ready for pro debut
3. Random gay guy with low self esteem
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I saw the last fifteen minutes of it last month. Not very well done. All that BS at the end about how it caused that one guys depression is ridiculous. The Nat Geo channel put one out an hour long show the science of steroids or something like that that was better. Everyone still purports all the alleged negative aspects even the Nat Geo one theirs was just a bit less. |
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I saw it a couple years ago, I found it funny the gay guy expected the steroids would make him built without working hard in the gym. |
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All I remember is the model guy getting injections from a "family friend", and then saying the gym needs to get him a bigger pec deck machine. |
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FutureGL
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AHAHAHA yeah that's basically what I got out of it. By "well done" i meant that I liked that they showed a bit of the whole "steroids make me huge" misconception with the depressed gay guy. But i agree with sapasion that they did blow the negative effects way out of proportion. |
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Kalle
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Doug Adams wrote:
All I remember is the model guy getting injections from a "family friend", and then saying the gym needs to get him a bigger pec deck machine.
I think this was the first one, the 2nd episode with the gay guy was horrible. That guy is one of the biggest douches of all time. |
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boatguy
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Saw it a while ago...wasn't the gay guy running around telling everyone who would listen that he was juicing? |
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zooropa1150
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totally agree , the steroid ones were really poorly done. This pissed me off even more when i switched to "the man who's arms exploded" or some stupid title like that.
On a positive note, have you guys seen the one with the strongman? He was awesome. |
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The strongman's name is Kevin Nee, in the true life episode he is training while a student at Arizona State University and trying to become a professional strongman. This year, he made the finals of the World's Strongest Man competition.
In the episode he is not shown using any supplements or anything, but do strongmen get drug-tested? If they do it is pretty impressive to go from an aspiring pro college student to one of the ten strongest men in the world. Not to mention he is hyoooge at a relatively low bodyfat(you can even see an ab or two when he flexes)
On a side note, did anyone catch the Worlds Strongest Man finals on ESPN? Mariusz Pudianowski had a fully visible six pack and was bigger than most bodybuilders, proving once again that it is very possible to get big while training for strength and not purely as a bodybuilder. |
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zooropa1150 wrote:
totally agree , the steroid ones were really poorly done. This pissed me off even more when i switched to "the man who's arms exploded" or some stupid title like that.
On a positive note, have you guys seen the one with the strongman? He was awesome.
Kevin Nee? Yeah that episode was great. Nice to see that he finally made it to the big show. |
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ungs9 wrote:
On a side note, did anyone catch the Worlds Strongest Man finals on ESPN? Mariusz Pudianowski had a fully visible six pack and was bigger than most bodybuilders, proving once again that it is very possible to get big while training for strength and not purely as a bodybuilder.
Using someone with some of the most elite genetics on the face of the earth as an example generally doesn't work. Virtually no one can do what he does. |
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Kalle
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ungs9 wrote:
The strongman's name is Kevin Nee, in the true life episode he is training while a student at Arizona State University and trying to become a professional strongman. This year, he made the finals of the World's Strongest Man competition.
In the episode he is not shown using any supplements or anything, but do strongmen get drug-tested? If they do it is pretty impressive to go from an aspiring pro college student to one of the ten strongest men in the world. Not to mention he is hyoooge at a relatively low bodyfat(you can even see an ab or two when he flexes)
On a side note, did anyone catch the Worlds Strongest Man finals on ESPN? Mariusz Pudianowski had a fully visible six pack and was bigger than most bodybuilders, proving once again that it is very possible to get big while training for strength and not purely as a bodybuilder.
There is no drug testing....... I'm not implying anything just answering your question.
Marsuiz is the king of all freaks! The tv production doesn't give his performance at WSM this year justice. He DOMINATED it, very glad I got to watch it live.
Don't be surprised if an American wins this year though! |
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Using someone with some of the most elite genetics on the face of the earth as an example generally doesn't work. Virtually no one can do what he does.
How do you know what his genetics are like? When you look at Arnold(The Greatest Bodybuilder of All-Time) you would think that he had elite genetics, but that is widely accepted as not true. Arnold has reported time and again that he was a very hard gainer, especially in his legs and calves.
My point is you don't know what someone's genetics are like. If he was squatting 600 pounds in his first week of lifting then I would agree he has elite genetics, but he probably started just like everyone else and worked hard to get where he is at. The point is it has been proven that heavy weights and low reps can build muscle just the same as bodybuilder sets of 10-15 reps.
Look at Ronnie, Johnnie Jackson, Branch Warren, and Mariusz. If an individual can handle weight in the 2-6 rep range they should be lifting in that range for most of the time IMO.
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I hate to change the subject here but...
Forget about tat gay guy... boatguy who is that HOT girl on your profile? |
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Kalle wrote:
ungs9 wrote:
The strongman's name is Kevin Nee, in the true life episode he is training while a student at Arizona State University and trying to become a professional strongman. This year, he made the finals of the World's Strongest Man competition.
In the episode he is not shown using any supplements or anything, but do strongmen get drug-tested? If they do it is pretty impressive to go from an aspiring pro college student to one of the ten strongest men in the world. Not to mention he is hyoooge at a relatively low bodyfat(you can even see an ab or two when he flexes)
On a side note, did anyone catch the Worlds Strongest Man finals on ESPN? Mariusz Pudianowski had a fully visible six pack and was bigger than most bodybuilders, proving once again that it is very possible to get big while training for strength and not purely as a bodybuilder.
There is no drug testing....... I'm not implying anything just answering your question.
Marsuiz is the king of all freaks! The tv production doesn't give his performance at WSM this year justice. He DOMINATED it, very glad I got to watch it live.
Don't be surprised if an American wins this year though!
Maybe you should start eating like a champion http://ifitandhealthy.com/...rkout-and-diet/ |
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ungs9 wrote:
Using someone with some of the most elite genetics on the face of the earth as an example generally doesn't work. Virtually no one can do what he does.
How do you know what his genetics are like? When you look at Arnold(The Greatest Bodybuilder of All-Time) you would think that he had elite genetics, but that is widely accepted as not true. Arnold has reported time and again that he was a very hard gainer, especially in his legs and calves.
My point is you don't know what someone's genetics are like. If he was squatting 600 pounds in his first week of lifting then I would agree he has elite genetics, but he probably started just like everyone else and worked hard to get where he is at. The point is it has been proven that heavy weights and low reps can build muscle just the same as bodybuilder sets of 10-15 reps.
Look at Ronnie, Johnnie Jackson, Branch Warren, and Mariusz. If an individual can handle weight in the 2-6 rep range they should be lifting in that range for most of the time IMO.
You seem to be confusing the speed at which they progress to their genetic potential. By your line of argument it would seem that EVERYBODY has the chance to become like Mariuz, JJ, Branch, Ronnie etc if they put enough work in. This is simply not the case.
Why not? Because they don't have the genetic potential. Good genes aren't just something that'll show up 5 minutes after you pick up a weight. They might, or your might have to bust your ass for 10-15 years to see where you could potentially end up. Look at Ronnie, he was an also-ran for many years at the O, then all of a sudden things kicked together and he was the best of the best.
And Arnie, best bodybuilder ever? Please. I don't know why people still persist with this line of thought. He was very good but he's nowhere near the best ever. And I'm not even talking in the mass monster stakes. Look at Zane, Wheeler, Ray, Dex... all more more balanced, more muscular and in better condition on stage.
Arnie was absolutely a pioneer and did wonderful things for the sport, but to call him the best ever because of this is a great disservice to all those who came after him. |
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That's me in drag, after I waxed my butt.
I gotta stop making bets when I'm drunk... |
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I can't believe no one said anything about Mariusz's diet |
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FutureGL
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Oh yeah candy all through the day. that's what ronnie does except instead of candy its CELLMASSSS OOOH YEEEEAH |
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KingMike
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Didn't Marius test positive 3 times for steroids?? Just wondering, i thought i read that somewhere. Either way he is a freak of nature. |
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Kalle
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KingMike wrote:
Didn't Marius test positive 3 times for steroids?? Just wondering, i thought i read that somewhere. Either way he is a freak of nature.
I am pretty sure he tested positive after 2004 Worlds where he got third place, but who cares. |
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A-Dizz
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Didn't Mariusz train for bodybuilding before he trained for strongman comps? I don't know for sure so I'm literally asking, it's not rhetorical.
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shizen
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A-Dizz wrote:
Didn't Mariusz train for bodybuilding before he trained for strongman comps? I don't know for sure so I'm literally asking, it's not rhetorical.
-dizzle
I think he was like a semi pro boxer, also he has been tested positive for more then just steroids-cocaine, and other stuff- I find it hard to believe that diet is real, yet it was published in flex magazine. |
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