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mch60360
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In response to Paulypaul, coenzyme Q10 makes a big difference for people on HBP medicine. You mite try going on that if you decide to use meds. That being said, being a bigger guy will affect blood pressure, so a different means other than medicine may be dropping weight (who wants to do that?).

I;m not trying to push meds, far from it (i'm a chiropractic student) but look at all your options and decide what is best.

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11kamita
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Join date: Aug 2009
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Christian Thibaudeau wrote:

Darkane wrote:
CT,

What is the main goal of this approach? Size?

Just curious as I recall you said something along the lines of when you hit the 235+ area you weren't comfortable with various ailments.

Are you gonna try to maybe get there again as fast as possible just to see how effective this new style is?

Cheers

I had problems, I suspect, because I gained weight too fast. A lot of it probably was water retention which caused blood pressure problems and sleep apnea.

I went to my cardiologist and my heart's function is now normal (it was dangerously low due to a cardiomyopathia which turned out to be viral not a malformation like they had suspected) and my blood pressure is under control (actually I had some bouts of HYPOtension last week) so I think that I can try to put on size again. I dropped down to a low of 205lbs (in the experimental arms video) and am now up to 223lbs. I would like to gradually work my way up to 240 again, but be smarter about it.

But I also want to gain strength. I have been running after a 500lbs bench press for what seems to be forever (hit 435 earlier this year) and that is my ultimate goal, but 485 by this summer would satisfy me, along with a 650lbs full squat. I'd also like to hit those in a raw, tested powerlifting competition.

Shit didn't realize that you we're natty. What are your vital stats height ect...

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Gymjunkie
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Join date: Nov 2006
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Hello Coach,

I have decided to employ a PUSH-PULL-LEGS split, similar to what you were doing in this tread, however carrying out 2 workouts per day.

My current strategie has me doing 3 big moves in the AM 6-8x3(whatever it takes to reach MFP whilst ramping) and 5x5 in the PM using variations of the AM lifts(i.e. DB presses etc).

Look okay?

Thanks,
GJ

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Christian Thibaudeau
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Gymjunkie wrote:
Hello Coach,

I have decided to employ a PUSH-PULL-LEGS split, similar to what you were doing in this tread, however carrying out 2 workouts per day.

My current strategie has me doing 3 big moves in the AM 6-8x3(whatever it takes to reach MFP whilst ramping) and 5x5 in the PM using variations of the AM lifts(i.e. DB presses etc).

Look okay?

Thanks,
GJ

Looks fine. I would only suggest autoregulating the PM workout (ramping the weight and/or adjusting the weight or volume depending on the result of the AM workout).

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Gymjunkie
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Christian Thibaudeau wrote:

Looks fine. I would only suggest autoregulating the PM workout (ramping the weight and/or adjusting the weight or volume depending on the result of the AM workout).

Thanks coach,

Some feedback, which won't surprise you and your'e probably tired of hearing:

I have to say, I USUALLY simply bust my ass(Poliquin style) in the AM workouts and it leaves me fairly wrecked! Upon employing the perfect rep, force spectrum ramping in the AM instead, I leave feeling like I have worked, but more awake and generally better. I usually can't do more than 2 2 a days in a row, but am still amped on my 3rd day. Your methods are proving VERY beneficial.

thanks again,
GJ

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paulypaul
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Join date: Nov 2002
Location: Connecticut, USA
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mch60360 wrote:
In response to Paulypaul, coenzyme Q10 makes a big difference for people on HBP medicine. You mite try going on that if you decide to use meds. That being said, being a bigger guy will affect blood pressure, so a different means other than medicine may be dropping weight (who wants to do that?).

I;m not trying to push meds, far from it (i'm a chiropractic student) but look at all your options and decide what is best.

Thanks for the tips, I will give CoQ-10 a try. I think I am going to take the plunge and start on Lisinopril tomorrow. I have been promising docs and myself I would get it down naturally for almost 2 years now, but I haven't been consistent as I should have been with BP supps and cardio, so I guess the meds are probably necessary at this point. It is only 5 mgs, so it is not even that much. I just hope nothing else is affected, workout, sex drive, etc.. If Christian takes what he does and looks like he does, should be alright.

The weirdest thing though is some of the symptoms I get. Heart palpitations, heart pain, headaches, bad gas, lack of sleep. I have had a lot of tests done over the last couple years, so unless they missed something, I don't think there is anything immediately fatal. The strangest thing though is I can go for nights without a good night's sleep and then I will be strong in the gym and get great pumps, although this is sometimes accompanied by lightheadedness and shortness of breath. Could be my imagination too, but I just feel a bit more pumped while feeling these other symptoms. If the BP was truly problematic, would I be that strong? I don't have a clue at this point.

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Hazzyhazz24
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Join date: Oct 2009
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Hey CT. Since I am already using CH before my workouts. what protein would you suggest for meal replacement purposes. Quick breakfast, meals in between classes etc. I would use ch but it is far too expensive and bitter tasting for me to blend with milk and a banana for a quick meal. Would you suggest Metabolic Drive or Grow! Whey and would there be a big difference in taste, quality, etc. ? Thanks for the help.

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Christian Thibaudeau
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Hazzyhazz24 wrote:
Hey CT. Since I am already using CH before my workouts. what protein would you suggest for meal replacement purposes. Quick breakfast, meals in between classes etc. I would use ch but it is far too expensive and bitter tasting for me to blend with milk and a banana for a quick meal. Would you suggest Metabolic Drive or Grow! Whey and would there be a big difference in taste, quality, etc. ? Thanks for the help.

If possible I would actually mix both (one scoop of each). If you can only buy one I would pick ...

- Grow! Whey is you are adding the protein to an existing meal
- Low-Carb Metabolic Drive if you are having the protein by itself

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tcarlock
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Join date: Oct 2008
Location: Texas, USA
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Coach Thibs,

Fist, thanks so much for much for taking the time to answer so many questions. You've always been prompt and polite.

In your current lifting program, do you ever take deloading weeks? If you do, or for someone who does, do you continue your Anaconda protocol? I've always wondered if one should maintain the full-blown peri-workout nutrition even with light workouts during a deloading week. It seems like the insulin spiking and amino pulsing would be overkill and possibly a waste of money during such a period.

Let me know what you think. Thanks.

-Trey

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Christian Thibaudeau
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tcarlock wrote:
Coach Thibs,

Fist, thanks so much for much for taking the time to answer so many questions. You've always been prompt and polite.

In your current lifting program, do you ever take deloading weeks? If you do, or for someone who does, do you continue your Anaconda protocol? I've always wondered if one should maintain the full-blown peri-workout nutrition even with light workouts during a deloading week. It seems like the insulin spiking and amino pulsing would be overkill and possibly a waste of money during such a period.

Let me know what you think. Thanks.

-Trey

I do deload from time to time, but it rarely something planned. I basically push as hard as I can and train as much as my schedule will allow. When I start to feel worn down and that my motivation goes down I'll cut back on training, normally doing 3 weekly workouts revolving around stuff I like doing or have been wanting to try for some time. Basically have fun in the gym for a week.

I DO keep up the full protocol. Actually on the days off I take a lot of ANACONDA and MAG-10 (obviously since they send me the stuff to experiment with it, I can afford to do that) something like 4 servings of ANACONDA and 6 servings of MAG-10 used throughout the day. This really helps me recover so that after that deloading week I'm ready to hit it hard in the gym (I often break PRs at that time).

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maynzie
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Thibs, whats up man?

Just a quick question about my own protocol

I live in Australia so I cant get the supps either

Well I've got Leucine, whey hydrosolate, gatorade and No Xplode for like citrulline malate and beta alanine, because I believe it contains some of the ingredients that are in Anaconda without the kick arse proteins!

But yeah, any ideas how I could load a protocol?

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fredarn
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You can't maynzie. You can still have good pre-workout nutrition, but you can't use the protocol without buying the Biotest supps. Stupid question.

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almactrusty
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Coach

I am following the push,pull,legs split and ramping one main lift followed by 2-3 assistance lifts per workout. Each workout is preceded by three scoops of ANACONDA and two of MAG-10. My strength gains have been awesome however, I need to lose a lot more body fat, so I am adding a pm metabolic workout using kettlebell circuits. I plan on using Surge Workout Fuel for the second workout. How or should I add ANACONDA to this? Also, I read your articles on destroying fat and am concerned about the CNS stress of my planned workout. Maybe a metabolic circuit every other day?

Thank You

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