Information:
I am planning to run this cycle in about June or July of 2008. By then I will be 21 and have enough $ saved up for this cycle. I am 225 lbs to date and have approximately 15% BF. I have been training hardcore and consistently since I was 17. I went from 180 lbs @ about 20%. I have gained 48 lbs of lean body mass.

My goals on this cycle is to make the most of it and gain 12-18 lbs of lean mass, maybe more if possible, but I don't want to overshoot my goals and become discouraged.

Also, I would like to lose 1%-2% of bodyfat at the very least. I had a blood test for the hell of it and my Total Testosterone is : 753 ng/dL and my Free Testosterone is: 22.6 ng/dL. I intend to have everything exactly planned, or mostly, to insure a very successful cycle.

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Cycle:
Week 2-12 Arimidex .25mg EOD
Week 1-12 Testosterone Enanthate 250mg E3D
Week 3-6 Dianabol 50mg ED
Week 9-12 Winstrol 50mg ED

Stasis Taper:
NONE
(May be subject to change)

PCT:
Week 12-13 Arimidex .25mg E3D
Week 13-14 Arimidex .125mg EOD
Week 14-15 Arimidex .125mg E3D
Week 14-16 Nolvadex 50mg ED
Week 16-18 Nolvadex 25mg ED

Procedure:
Only inject after site is swabbed and after I have showered.
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Diet:
5000-5500 Calories per day.
30% fats, 40% protein, 30% carbohydrates

Supplements:
6 BCAAs ED
3 Flameout caps ED
2 scoops of Superfood EOD
10g of Creatine ED
2 HOT-ROX ED
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Measurements before cycle:
Chest- 49"
Neck- 20"
Arms- 17"
Forearms- 13.5"
Wrist- 8.25"
Upper Thigh- 30"
Waist- 38"
Calves- 18.5"
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Workout Regiment:
Increase each exercise 1 set each week for 6 weeks. After 6 weeks, repeat, but instead increase each rep by 1 each week.

Goes by Superset #, Sets x Reps, Load, Rest

Note: Band by the workout name means I am using those resistance adding lifting bands. Also the machine where you squeeze your legs together or push your legs out, I have no clue what the workout name is called, so I made something up.

Monday:
A1 Benchpress + Bands 5x5 8RM 60s
A2 Dumbbell Benchpress 5x5 8RM 60s
B1 Cable Flies 5x8 10RM 60s
B2 Band Flies 3x8 10RM 60s
C Band Benchpress 3x8 10RM 60s
D1 Triceps Extensions 3x6 8RM 45s
D2 Skullcrushers 3x6 8RM 45s

Tuesday:
A1 Chin ups 5x5 8RM 60s
A2 Dumbbell Rows 5x5 8RM 60s
B1 Barbell Rows 5x6 8RM 60s
B2 Band Rows 5x8 10RM 60s
C Barbell Shrugs 5x6 8RM 60s
D1 Bicep Curls 3x8 10RM 45s
D2 Preacher Curls 3x8 10RM 45s

Wednesday:
A1 Barbell Squats 4x3 5RM 120s
A2 Barbell Lunges 4x4 6RM 120s
B1 Leg Extensions 4x12 16RM 60s
B2 Leg Curls 4x4 6RM 60s
C1 Leg "squeeze" 4x10 12RM 60s
C2 Leg "expand" 4x6 8RM 60s

Thursday:
A1 Barbell Shoulder Press 5x6 8RM 60s
A2 Dumbbell Shoulder Press 5x6 8RM 60s
B Powerclean 3x3 5RM 120s
C Snatch 3x3 5RM 120s
D Reverse Flies 4x8 10RM 60s
E1 Frontal Raise 4x8 10RM 60s
E2 Lateral Raise 4x8 10RM 60s

Friday:
A Seated Calf Raise 10x10 12RM 60s
B Donkey Calf Raise 10x10 12RM 60s
C1 Preacher Curls 5x5 5RM 45s
C2 Bicep Curls 5x5 5RM 45s
D1 Tricep Extension 5x5 5RM 45s
D2 Tricep Pushdown 5x5 5RM 45s
E1 Reverse Curls 3x5 5RM 45s
E2 Close-grip Benchpress 3x5 5RM 45s
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Questions:
* Any recommendations on the cycle?
* How does one go about sticking the needle in? I heard of a light jab into the muscle as well as a slow push into it. Just the penetration method is my question there.
* Any recommendations on the workout regiment?
* Anyone have experience with the stasis taper as well as a regular anti-estrogen\AI PCT? What are your suggestions? (please have both experiences if you are going to say which one is better)
* Any more information needed?
* Any suggestions are welcome.

Thanks for the comments! :D. I may keep this as a blog for my cycle. It depends how busy I am...

Are you sure you want to run testosterone suspension? That's an incredibly short half-life you're dealing with; so short that you would want to inject within a few hours from your work-out.

Also, that only adds up to 350mg/week of actual testosterone (granted, it's a "true" 350mg since it lacks an ester), so there is hardly any need for the Arimidex you have planned, especially at that dosage. Best to leave it out for the time being.

Since you're looking to drop bodyfat a bit, you might want to total up your recommended daily caloric intake and only add about 300-500 calories to that sum (some even argue for less). Changing your macronutrient break-down to attaining most of your calories from fats and proteins, rather than carbohydrates, will also be very helpful. What carbs you have left should come with your PWO shake.

There are a few more points I have to add, but it's late and I'll contribute later.

Too many compounds for a first cycle in my opinion? Why not keep it simple, i.e stand alone test with proper PCT? My 1st cyle, so far I've put on about 16lbs in 1 month, Test Prop only. I'm about half way through....

In terms of sticking the needle in, just pick the 'spot' touch the needle on the skin surface and slowly push, no need to jab quickly. Asides from the initial prick you don't feel any pain, so you can inject as fast/slow as you like. Don't forget to aspirate.

Workout seems fine, just make sure you eat enough to recover.

Hey man, newbie to newbie, you might really want to reconsider this whole thing!!! I havent been in the game long and have yet to cycle, but I dont think anyone is going to recommend you cycle right now!

1. NOT EVEN 21 YET!
Dude you still have a descent level of natural test! (Even your blood test shows that) And, you are probably not done growing yet so your risks will most likely outweigh your gains.

2. It seems as if you dont even really have a well researched and thought out plan
about doing a cycle! Too many compounds for a 1st cycle is going to be repeated in this thread.

3. Goals you mentioned are very easily attainable without AAS, especially at your age.

4. IMO, 48 lbs of LBM in less than 4 years is pretty good! (maybe its just me) Why not keep this going naturally for a while? You undoubtly can. There are a lot of guys that wish for that type of success. BTW, I didnt see Deadlifts anywhere.

5. Asking for a source....well you've been warned!

6. You really didnt list enough stats for anyone to recommend anything plausible to you!

All in all, it is probably in your best interest not to cycle right now. Maybe make some tweaks in your training and diet and gain naturally for a few more years.

Read through as much information as you can and learn about AAS in this time frame. Trust me, there is a LOT to be learned before one can make a hypothesis on how to use AAS safely.

This is just what I think is the sum of the replys you will get from more experienced people, maybe with the addition of other details.

Jazz

^^^^
Good post.
Deadlifts on Wed though....

you want to use test suspension? Have fun pinning yourself every day for 12 weeks

muscle_meathead wrote:
you want to use test suspension? Have fun pinning yourself every day for 12 weeks


Even twice a day is where you should be at. 6-8 weeks with 50mg 2x/day would work significantly better.

ya, suspension is sort of a strange call for a first cycle. I would try to find some enth or cyp if i were you. if the guy is hooked up with real pharms there should be test cyp for HRT patients that come in. Go for that instead of suspension.

otherwise prop is ok and still a better option. you'd need to inject ED or at least EOD. Injection pain is a lot worse than enth or cyp though.

i think you're too young for a cycle as well but I understand where you are coming from (i started to plateau around that age and that was about the time i started researching gear...i didn't cycle for about another 5 years though). Only you know if you are truly ready.

Thanks for the comments and recommendations about the suspension. I'll change up my test, but I really wouldn't think that the dbol would hurt, unless you guys really think so. I just threw it in there to kick start a cycle. For the reason I am planning to start at 21 is that I honestly do not think I can keep gaining what I did even if i kicked up the intensity. I just don't see my self in another 3-5 years being a 205+ LBM. But if you guys diagree, then I will wait; I have the patience =].

For a frame of reference, P#22, who is a bodybuilder, is a 215 LBM. I know its a good 25 lb difference, but I don't think he just ran one cycle. I don't think hes on all the time either. He looks great, and its kind of what I am trying to achieve. I would be happy with a 205-210 LBM. It is really my long term goals. Anything after that can come naturally, if it does at all. Meeting my long term goals in a short term time, relatively, is superb in my eyes. I still do not what to cut myself short if that is truly the case though.

So what that background info if you still think I should use at 21, then just give a shout and I'll look at the majority of the crowd.

I'm gonna change up the suspension to testosterone enanthate 350mg E3D.

By the way, I can only bench 250, but my chest size is a 49". I know its a weak bench, but does it say anything about my body type? I really don't care about my #s, but rather my size. Its just a curious, but not serious, question.

You have made decent gains and they should continue givin your naturally high test levels at your age.

Id first look more into all aspects of nutrition, macro breakdowns, carb cycling etc. I know at 21 I thought I had a "good" deit and a decent understanding about nutriton. However now I realize that there was tons of room for improvement in that area.

Im not positive however I think the weight you are referring to of Prisoner is his on stage weight at 215 and that is severly dehydrated at 4ish% bf. Hes definately got a physique that many of us would strive to achieve.

Well yes and no. He was 222 @ 4% BF last time I checked. I just factored out the BF. I also understand that I have the ability to make gains, but at this point in time, it seems that taking AAS wouldn't be harmful to me and would just boost my progress right now.

I might be able to reach 200 LBM right now, it is definitely in the realm of possibility. It is just that I could get the 8 lbs to get to 200 LBM as well as maybe put on a few more. Unless this sounds like a bad idea, I don't see why I shouldn't be doing it.

Adjusted the Winny to be 100MG EOD, just updating.

About the arimidex, they usually come in 1mg pill forms. Do they carry the .25mg, or should I just cut it with a knife in 4 equal servings. Thanks.

Save money and buy research chemicals

I second what sap says. Taking a 1/4ml is rather simple.

Thewannabe
I don't know why I didn't mention this earlier. My preference with dbol is at least 4 hits a day. There are some people who advocate long periods in between dosages so it clears. I'm not one of those people. I don't know what quantity your pills are likely 5mg or 10mg. If so, you might consider 3-5 smaller dosages. 15mg x 3 or better yet 10mg x 5. Depending on who you believe dbol's half life is just 4-6 hours, which suggests to me multiple dosing. I personally run 2 naposim's every 4 hours with positive results

sapasion wrote:
Thewannabe
I don't know why I didn't mention this earlier. My preference with dbol is at least 4 hits a day. There are some people who advocate long periods in between dosages so it clears. I'm not one of those people. I don't know what quantity your pills are likely 5mg or 10mg. If so, you might consider 3-5 smaller dosages. 15mg x 3 or better yet 10mg x 5. Depending on who you believe dbol's half life is just 4-6 hours, which suggests to me multiple dosing. I personally run 2 naposim's every 4 hours with positive results

I've had terrific results myself from splitting it into 3 doses about 6 hours apart. 10/10/10 or 15/15/10.

Hmm, thanks for the tip =].

I am gonna keep this as a log, but before I start my cycle I am not really defined right now. Should I just manage the calorie intake? I need 3700 calories to maintain right now, 4400 calories to gain. Once I am on cycle I assume I can eat 5000-5500 calories with little to no fat gain. Should I just do a velocity diet now, or let some of the fat loss happen on cycle.

Don't get me wrong, this is going to be a bulk cycle, but I do want to be able to see what I pack on.

If I do the velocity diet now, I will post the pictures after my fat loss, and after cycle for anyone interested in my log.

Also I updated my original post.

Cycle updated AGAIN. I had to make changes as a source changed and product availability. I decided anadrol would be better for a future cycle.

Ok, I updated my original post quite a few times, so re-read\review it. I am going to order anywhere from 04/08/08 to 04/12/08, so if you have ANY comments about the cycle please post then. I will start increasing calories slowly from week 1-3 as the test will not be in full effect. I will increase them about 500kcals a week until I get to about 5000-5500 per week. I am going to let the 500kcals range vary per workout day. Some days I may feel more exhausted and eat more to make up for it.

I will be going fishing and maybe hunting so I can bring quality protein into my diet as my family is now on a food budget because of me :|. I will be eating a pound of veal a day as well as other sources of protein, but that and fish will be my main intake. I WILL take any advice posted on my log, not at a slight hint, but if it is mentioned by at least more than one person, I will definitely change it. This does not mean I won't take advice if it is just from one person, and I will tell you if or if not I will take your advice.

I do not want another Jake's Cycle Log around here and I want to inform the newbies of how to do things correctly by example. I am 20 years old, but I have not grown, in height, since I was 17 and I vary between 225lbs and 227lbs. I will be 21 as soon as June comes around, and about the same time as the cycle starts probably. My waist is 38, but I do not have a round belly for those who think I may have more body fat than I claim. It is mostly flat except for an almost un-noticeable slight bump.

Please post any comments about ANY portion of my cycle that you may find a flaw with or would like to commend me on with. Thank you :D.

EDIT:
I added in an oral winstrol at the end of my cycle because I was doing totals and, well, it made the shipping free and only cost me a total of $15 extra. I haven't placed the order yet, so any comments on the cycle are welcome.

Gonna order the stuff tomorrow, so if you have any cycle advice better give it by 2000 hours.

Diet for 2 weeks to drop fat:

8 BCAAs per day
2 HOT-ROX per day
25mg Nolvadex per day
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Workout days:
6 eggs
1 Scoop of Grow! Premium Quality Protein
1 Cup milk
Blend and enjoy.

3 times per day


Total Protein: 216g
Total Carbs: 35g
Total Fat: 107g
Total Calories : 1926
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Non-workout days:
4 eggs
1 Scoop of Grow! Premium Quality Protein
1 Cup milk
Blend and enjoy.

3 times per day

Total Protein: 162g
Total Carbs: 35g
Total Fat: 77g
Total Calories : 1446
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I am taking the Nolvadex to help raise T levels and lower the ability to store fat and promote fat loss. Reason for the Nolvadex is so that it is mostly fat loss and not muscle loss. I use the Nolvadex, HOT-ROX, and BCAAs everyday. I am seeing how much weight I can lose in about two weeks. I hope to lose 5-8 pounds and it seems very realistic as I have a 37.5 inch waist in the morning and a 38 inch waist at night. Started just two days ago and at night my waist was usually a 39. I don't know how much I have lost as I usually weigh myself in the morning, but I usually weight 225 lbs at night, and tonight I weight 222.

After 2 days it seems to be going well, but it is VERY hard to keep this diet as the shake seems to go right through me. I would have no problem usually, but at work on Saturdays I have no access to food sources. I have extremely low carbs, only 35g a day so this should be some extreme fat loss. I do not have the ability to wake up at 5-6 am to do about 30 minutes of cardio, as I can barely get up to get to school on time. I am however finding it easier to sleep without carbs as I have NO energy whatsoever.

This is pretty much an altered V diet. I will stop on the 25th and report my waist measurement and weight.

I am doing this to prevent estrogenic side effects and have a bit more of a successful cycle than I would of had without this diet. This will also challenge me as I have never tried to cut before. Seems to be going very well and I think it is due to the HOT-ROX and Nolvadex.

I am feeling like pressure is building up in my head, but it may be from the very low amount of carbs. I just took a nap and an advil and I feel fine now. The first day I tried the HOT-ROX, I felt very jittery. They are a very powerful supplement and I am glad to have then in my arsenal. I am following my current workout schedule, but I am not bumping up the sets. I am just keeping it steady for right now to get used to it and start bumping sets on cycle. I will increase the weight as it necessary to maintain the X rep max both currently and while on cycle.


EDIT:
Error on measurements, waist is 38.5" tonight. Still, on an average .25" per day is pretty good. Is it probably due to the lack of food in my stomach at the moment, but its still motivating :).

I guess I "cheated" today. I was going so crazy that I had 3 apples today and a subway oven roasted chicken sandwich on top of my 2 shakes. I skipped my scheduled 2nd shake as I had no access to my raw eggs, milk, or protein power as I was at work. I will stick to it better tomorrow and try to keep to this diet. The only real cheat meals I might have is an apple or two a day extra. It really doesn't seem to make much difference as it is only 15 carbs per apple, and they are healthy as well as contain good amounts of fiber.

I should break my shakes down into smaller portions and enjoy throughout the day, but I honestly do not have time for it between work and school right now. I will make time for my 5-6 meals a day on cycle as I will be out of regular school, take a two summer college classes and have more time for meals. I am going to plan to wake up earlier, so I can have more meals then.

For now I plan to sleep longer, 9-10 hours as it will cut down on my time to have meals. I rather have more sleep than a lack of sleep on this low carb diet.

Oh and an update on measurements:

Arms - 17.25"
Calves - 18.75"
Forearms - 13.5"
Upper Thigh - 30"
Chest - 49.5"
Wrist - 8.125"
Neck - 20"

Thewannabe wrote:
Thanks for the comments and recommendations about the suspension. I'll change up my test, but I really wouldn't think that the dbol would hurt, unless you guys really think so. I just threw it in there to kick start a cycle. For the reason I am planning to start at 21 is that I honestly do not think I can keep gaining what I did even if i kicked up the intensity. I just don't see my self in another 3-5 years being a 205+ LBM. But if you guys diagree, then I will wait; I have the patience =].

For a frame of reference, P#22, who is a bodybuilder, is a 215 LBM. I know its a good 25 lb difference, but I don't think he just ran one cycle. I don't think hes on all the time either. He looks great, and its kind of what I am trying to achieve. I would be happy with a 205-210 LBM. It is really my long term goals. Anything after that can come naturally, if it does at all. Meeting my long term goals in a short term time, relatively, is superb in my eyes. I still do not what to cut myself short if that is truly the case though.

So what that background info if you still think I should use at 21, then just give a shout and I'll look at the majority of the crowd.

I'm gonna change up the suspension to testosterone enanthate 350mg E3D.

By the way, I can only bench 250, but my chest size is a 49". I know its a weak bench, but does it say anything about my body type? I really don't care about my #s, but rather my size. Its just a curious, but not serious, question.

But you cant even say you tried for a couple years..