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Thomas Gabriel
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Join date: Nov 2005
Location: Alberta, CAN
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Holy crap I just found out about this stuff. It would be pretty sweet if one injection gave you a tan for a month. It would suck if it was uneven (like your face turned dark brown or something).

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rrjc5488
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Location: California, USA
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what the hell is it?

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jsbrook
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TVG wrote:
Holy crap I just found out about this stuff. It would be pretty sweet if one injection gave you a tan for a month. It would suck if it was uneven (like your face turned dark brown or something).


It is not supposed to be. And hasn't been so with humans who've been tested. This is actually in Phase III clinical trials from an Australian company. It's supposed to hit the mass market at some point. If it's going to be publicly traded, I'm investing. It'll be fucking huge. Every girl wants to be tan. The cosmetic market as well as those in it for skin cancer prevention promises to be enormous.

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TONEdef
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In men it has been shown to increase erections and libido as well. Nice!

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TONEdef
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I think you can buy it for 'research' purposes. Check out:

http://melanotan.org/...in/yabb/YaBB.pl

I think I may have to do some 'research'. I have some rats that are badly in need of a tan;-D

Tone

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jsbrook
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rrjc5488 wrote:
what the hell is it?


It is a drug that forces your body to increase the amount of melanin that it produces. Melanin is the substance that is responsible for skin pigment and darkening. People who take it will get darker without sun exposure. There are research chem companies that are currently selling it with daily oral administration I believe. But the company that is in Phase III trials planning a mass release is going to have it such that you can get 1 injection a month, I think.

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rrjc5488
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jsbrook wrote:
rrjc5488 wrote:
what the hell is it?

It is a drug that forces your body to increase the amount of melanin that it produces. Melanin is the substance that is responsible for skin pigment and darkening. People who take it will get darker without sun exposure. There are research chem companies that are currently selling it with daily oral administration I believe. But the company that is in Phase III trials planning a mass release is going to have it such that you can get 1 injection a month, I think.


Thanks- and yeah, investing in this shit would be golden.

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TONEdef
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jsbrook wrote:
rrjc5488 wrote:
what the hell is it?

It is a drug that forces your body to increase the amount of melanin that it produces. Melanin is the substance that is responsible for skin pigment and darkening. People who take it will get darker without sun exposure. There are research chem companies that are currently selling it with daily oral administration I believe. But the company that is in Phase III trials planning a mass release is going to have it such that you can get 1 injection a month, I think.


Do you know the name of the company? I think buying shares in this company would be a really great idea. Both a tanning aid and sexual dysfunction drug. What a combo!

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TONEdef
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The company is called Epitan. Epitan is listed on the following exchanges:
Australian Stock Exchange (ASX) with the code EPT
ADR Level 1 (USA) with the code EPTNY
Xetra (Germany) with the code UR9

Non-Australian residents can purchase shares in Epitan through an Australian stock broker. If you are interested in purchasing shares via the ASX , email your contact details to investorrelations@epitan.com.au and we will arrange for our Corporate Advisory Broker to contact you.

US residents can also purchase shares via their local broker through Epitan's American Depositary Receipt (ADR) program. The ADR code is EPTNY and its CUSIP number is 29427H205. Each Epitan ADR represents 10 ordinary shares of Epitan as traded on the ASX. Trading activity is available on the Bloomberg website: www.bloomberg.com The Bank of New York is Epitan's depositary bank and their telephone helpline is 18882692377 (within US) or 16103827836 (outside US).

European investors may choose to buy Epitan shares on Xetra (German exchange). The Xetra code is UR9.

Tone

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Thomas Gabriel
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Only bad things I've read about so far are increase in freckles with some people, and decrease in appetite (this could be good for majority of people). It seems to be pretty widely available online.

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TONEdef
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TVG wrote:
Only bad things I've read about so far are increase in freckles with some people, and decrease in appetite (this could be good for majority of people). It seems to be pretty widely available online.


The only problem is price. IBE is selling it at $100 for 10mg vial and Muscle Research is out of stock (I think their Melanotan II is $100 as well). I'm going to do a bit of research and try and find a better source. I'm really looking forward to trying this.

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trailrash
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TONEdef wrote:
TVG wrote:
Only bad things I've read about so far are increase in freckles with some people, and decrease in appetite (this could be good for majority of people). It seems to be pretty widely available online.

The only problem is price. IBE is selling it at $100 for 10mg vial and Muscle Research is out of stock (I think their Melanotan II is $100 as well). I'm going to do a bit of research and try and find a better source. I'm really looking forward to trying this.


AG-Guys was supposed to have this July 10th. But no update as of yet. Ill be curious to see the price.

TR

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jsbrook
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TONEdef wrote:
The company is called Epitan. Epitan is listed on the following exchanges:
Australian Stock Exchange (ASX) with the code EPT
ADR Level 1 (USA) with the code EPTNY
Xetra (Germany) with the code UR9

Non-Australian residents can purchase shares in Epitan through an Australian stock broker. If you are interested in purchasing shares via the ASX , email your contact details to investorrelations@epitan.com.au and we will arrange for our Corporate Advisory Broker to contact you.

US residents can also purchase shares via their local broker through Epitan's American Depositary Receipt (ADR) program. The ADR code is EPTNY and its CUSIP number is 29427H205. Each Epitan ADR represents 10 ordinary shares of Epitan as traded on the ASX. Trading activity is available on the Bloomberg website: www.bloomberg.com The Bank of New York is Epitan's depositary bank and their telephone helpline is 18882692377 (within US) or 16103827836 (outside US).

European investors may choose to buy Epitan shares on Xetra (German exchange). The Xetra code is UR9.

Tone


I think they have been bought out by Clinuvel. But I think Clinuvel just may have the rights to Melanotan [I} which does not have the libido effecs as Melanotan II does but does produce the darkening. Clinuvel plans to have this on the market by 2009.

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jsbrook
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trailrash wrote:
TONEdef wrote:
TVG wrote:
Only bad things I've read about so far are increase in freckles with some people, and decrease in appetite (this could be good for majority of people). It seems to be pretty widely available online.

The only problem is price. IBE is selling it at $100 for 10mg vial and Muscle Research is out of stock (I think their Melanotan II is $100 as well). I'm going to do a bit of research and try and find a better source. I'm really looking forward to trying this.

AG-Guys was supposed to have this July 10th. But no update as of yet. Ill be curious to see the price.

TR



My bets are it'd be more expensive if anything. AG-Guys if you're reading this, you should have a big launch and start it off really cheap and get a big chunk of the market share.

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TONEdef
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jsbrook wrote:
My bets are it'd be more expensive if anything. AG-Guys if you're reading this, you should have a big launch and start it off really cheap and get a big chunk of the market share.


God loves a tryer;-D

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speed
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I've used it before. It is injectable. It worked great. I did 1 mg a shot. Got 10 mg for 65$ from MR. I am naturally fairly tan once i'm out in the sun and I got extremely dark, so much to the point that people started to think I was mixed. I finished my supply about a month ago and I still have the tan today, but I do spend a couple hours in the sun a few days a week cause of training so that definitely helps.

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Guilo
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Join date: Feb 2005
Location: Arkansas, USA
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I've been poking around their forum and I can't see much information on dosing...

It looks like the general idea is 1mg per dose... but no information as to how often or how long.

Does anyone here know?

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rrjc5488
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Is this injected intramuscular or intraveniously?



Where can one get this shit?

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JohnnyBlaze
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Join date: Jun 2006
Location: Australia
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It's injected subcutaneously, under the fat layer of the skin. Just like insulin. Basically, just pinch the skin up of the injection site, insert the needle, aspirate and plunge. The layer of fat over the abdomen is a common injection site for this drug.

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Thomas Gabriel
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Join date: Nov 2005
Location: Alberta, CAN
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Dosing:

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10 mg / 12.00 injections = 0.833 mg --- 42 kg = 92 lbs @0.02mg/kg
10 mg / 11.50 injections = 0.870 mg --- 43 kg = 96 lbs @0.02mg/kg
10 mg / 11.00 injections = 0.909 mg --- 45 kg = 100 lbs @0.02mg/kg
10 mg / 10.50 injections = 0.952 mg --- 48 kg = 105 lbs @0.02mg/kg
10 mg / 10.00 injections = 1.000 mg --- 50 kg = 110 lbs @0.02mg/kg
10 mg / 9.50 injections = 1.053 mg --- 53 kg = 116 lbs @0.02mg/kg
10 mg / 9.00 injections = 1.111 mg --- 55 kg = 122 lbs @0.02mg/kg
10 mg / 8.50 injections = 1.176 mg --- 59 kg = 130 lbs @0.02mg/kg
10 mg / 8.00 injections = 1.250 mg --- 63 kg = 138 lbs @0.02mg/kg
10 mg / 7.50 injections = 1.333 mg --- 67 kg = 147 lbs @0.02mg/kg
10 mg / 7.00 injections = 1.429 mg --- 71 kg = 157 lbs @0.02mg/kg
10 mg / 6.75 injections = 1.481 mg --- 74 kg = 163 lbs @0.02mg/kg
10 mg / 6.50 injections = 1.538 mg --- 77 kg = 170 lbs @0.02mg/kg
10 mg / 6.25 injections = 1.600 mg --- 80 kg = 176 lbs @0.02mg/kg
10 mg / 6.00 injections = 1.667 mg --- 83 kg = 184 lbs @0.02mg/kg
10 mg / 5.75 injections = 1.739 mg --- 87 kg = 192 lbs @0.02mg/kg
10 mg / 5.50 injections = 1.818 mg --- 91 kg = 200 lbs @0.02mg/kg
10 mg / 5.25 injections = 1.905 mg --- 95 kg = 210 lbs @0.02mg/kg
10 mg / 5.00 injections = 2.000 mg --- 100 kg = 220 lbs @0.02mg/kg
10 mg / 4.75 injections = 2.105 mg --- 105 kg = 232 lbs @0.02mg/kg
10 mg / 4.50 injections = 2.222 mg --- 111 kg = 245 lbs @0.02mg/kg
10 mg / 4.25 injections = 2.353 mg --- 118 kg = 259 lbs @0.02mg/kg
10 mg / 4.00 injections = 2.500 mg --- 125 kg = 276 lbs @0.02mg/kg
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You can get it here:

Allen --- cwallen@163.com ----- Sinopep Pharm. (China)
Price: $50 / 10mg.
Shipping: DHL International. $40.
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Muscle Research -- www.muscle-research.com ---- (USA)
Price: $65 / 10mg. (use coupon code "melanotan.org")
Shipping: To USA - $10 / International - $20
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Pro Research --- pro-research@hotmail.com ---- (USA)
Price: $159 / 10mg.
Shipping: Included in price - (no cold packs used)
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Oliver (c0c4in3) --- c0c4in3@gmx.net --- (Europe)
Price: $250 / 20mg
Shipping: $80 - UPS

I hope I'm allowed to post that. I don't believe it's illegal so should be alright. AG guys is also coming out with it.

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mpp
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Location: Illinois, USA
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In general, how expensive is melanotan to use and what are typical daily or weekly doses?

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JohnnyBlaze
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Location: Australia
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From what I've read on their melanotan.org message board, it is meant to be cycled 3 times, with each cycle being a total of 10mg, broken up into 10x1mg injectable doses.

Some people inject it twice a day during their cycle, morning and evening, and some inject 1ml every other day. Probably depending on how much they are using in their total cycle, or something like that.

Using a solarium speeds up the process and stimulates the reaction faster, resulting in a deep, even tan within a few days.

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PharmD Pete
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Location: Colorado, USA
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FYI: MR is out of melanotan II until mid august according to their website

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rrjc5488
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I still dont get it though, is this shit an actual steroid? Does it mess with horomone levels, pct (really stupid question?) etc...

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TONEdef
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rrjc5488 wrote:
I still dont get it though, is this shit an actual steroid? Does it mess with horomone levels, pct (really stupid question?) etc...


It's not a steroid, but a synthetic version of the melanocyte stimulating hormone which stimulates the release of melanin(pigment) in your skin. The great thing about Melanotan II is that it also increases libido in both male and female subjects, which is a great side effect.

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