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Jewlez
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Join date: Aug 2005
Location: Scotland
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Hey there
I'm 14 and have been training for about 4 months now. Some of the people I train with recommended that I buy proper weight lifting shoes. They claimed this would help my form a lot as I tend to lift my heels up slightly when squatting. The thing is I have no idea where to start looking, or what to look for. I was wondering if anyone could give me any information on good makes or tell me what to look for?

Thanks xxx

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Seattle_Lifter
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Try this place

http://www.dynamic-eleiko.com/...ts/shoesFR.html

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Tank53
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I've never heard of such a thing.

And you're 14? Don't worry about these guys. Your Nike or Adidas shoes are fine weight lifting shoes. I'd say you'd have to get on an extreme side of lifting to get anything like this. Weight lifting shoes, if there is such a thing, goes along the lines of bp shirts, x-vests, etc. You can certainly live without it now plus I'm sure you have better things to waste..er...spend your money on.

If you wanna invest your money in something worth while, get some lifting chalk and buy more vegetables to eat.
-T

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Professor X
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Tank53 wrote:
I've never heard of such a thing.

And you're 14? Don't worry about these guys. Your Nike or Adidas shoes are fine weight lifting shoes. I'd say you'd have to get on an extreme side of lifting to get anything like this. Weight lifting shoes, if there is such a thing, goes along the lines of bp shirts, x-vests, etc. You can certainly live without it now plus I'm sure you have better things to waste..er...spend your money on.

If you wanna invest your money in something worth while, get some lifting chalk and buy more vegetables to eat.
-T


I agree wit this. I don't have "weightlifting shoes". I wear what I feel comfortable in. That has ranged from regular Converse shoes (the cheapest) to regular Nikes to the Nike free shoes. At 14, none of this should be your concern...just learn proper form. Some people lift barefoot.

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daven
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If you have a tendency to raise onto your toes while lifting, you might have tight hamstrings. Work on increasing your flexibility, and your heels should stay on the ground.

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gold's
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Jewlez wrote:
Hey there
I'm 14 and have been training for about 4 months now. Some of the people I train with recommended that I buy proper weight lifting shoes. They claimed this would help my form a lot as I tend to lift my heels up slightly when squatting. The thing is I have no idea where to start looking, or what to look for. I was wondering if anyone could give me any information on good makes or tell me what to look for?

Thanks xxx


Hi Jewlez,
I agree with most of the guys here. As long as you have good lateral support( side to side), then the shoe is fine for now. My heels don't lift as I squat due to stretching my calves and achilles tendon in addition to my hip area. Athletic shoes can be expensive. Also, according to Rick Walker at Diesel Crew, he likes Chuck Taylors and Nike which works fine for him.

Take care and good luck lifting heavy!

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CollinAshmore
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If she's doing Olympic style lifting, it might be advantageous for here to get a pair--if she plans to stick with it. I mean if that is the case she might as well be training in a manner reflecting what will be expected of her.

If the above is the case, I guess I would equate it to not buying football cleats if you plan on playing football.

Just my two cents,
Collin

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buffalokilla
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I strongly disagree that most shoes are okay to lift in. If you're lifting weights that are heavy (for you), why on earth would you want to wear squishy shoes? It just doesn't make any sense, and it's inviting bad form and injury.

In general, you want a very firm sole (it shouldn't give much if at all when you poke it with your finger), firm insole, and good support (for your foot) in the arch. It should also have reasonable ankle support (not so much that it stops movement, though).

If you're doing olympic lifting, buying a lower end pair of olympic lifting shoes would be a good idea. You can often get them used, too - if there's a club in the area, they may have some good choices.

If you're doing a more general lifting or powerlifting kind of deal, Chuck Taylors work well, as do police boots (army-surplus.com has good prices) or Ottomix trainers. The lowest I would be willing to go is a good set of hiking boots or cross-trainers that fit the above criteria.

Most of all, though, have fun lifting :)

-Dan

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Hatebreeder
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I wore my Nikes to the gym once on squat day. I definitely did not feel stable while squatting. There was just too much padding for me to feel like I had a solid base. I normally wear my old Airwalks. Their padding is completely obliterated which makes it feel almost like I'm squatting barefoot which I like.

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Professor X
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buffalokilla wrote:
I strongly disagree that most shoes are okay to lift in. If you're lifting weights that are heavy (for you), why on earth would you want to wear squishy shoes? It just doesn't make any sense, and it's inviting bad form and injury.


I have been lifting seriously for ten years and have never had this problem. What Nike's are you wearing that feel "squishy"? They make these shoes to play basketball in and for running. If they are good enough for contact sports, they are good enough to lift in. I just don't see all of these people running around with shoe related weight lifting injuries. Perhaps you can point out a few. Until then, my Nike's do just fine. My Converse did just fine as well.

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brokenground
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I started lifting when I was 13. At the time I had nike cross-training sneakers (don't ask me why I remember that) they had a really hard bottom. They were great for lifting and for the training I was going through. Now I just wear regular nike running shoes. I'm comfortable enough that I don't even think about it.

I would just look for something wide for stability and with a solid bottom.

If your heels are lifting off the ground, that tells me that something is wrong with your form. You should work with your coach or a trainer to make sure learn to do it properly.

Practice doing squats by grabing hold of something, so that you can put all of your weight on your heels, as if you'd fall backward if you let go. Exaggerating like this should help.

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SouthernGirl
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Personally, the only thing on my feet when I squat or deadlift (usually) are my socks.

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Bartek
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For olympic weightlifting I would definitely recommend weight lifting shoes. Otherwise, any shoes with decent support should be fine for a beginner lifter.

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threekings
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Hoss

Lifting your heels while squatting indicates you lack ankle flexibility. You need to work on some specific ankle flexibility work, including some calf work, calf stretches, achilles tendon stretches, all done after your body is warmed up. It can help for you to wear boots or use a wedge to help alleviate until you gain the flexibility to squat flat-footed.

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captjhoss
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Chuck T's all the way. The best sumo deadlift shoes in the world (or at least that I've tried).

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Krollmonster
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If you can't squat without your heels raising, you lack flexibility. Since you are new to OL, I would stay with your regular sneakers and gain flexibility in the lifts, especially the overhead squat (use a broom to start). If you can't get the positions right, it will hold you back. Once you can get the positions right, get some OL shoes. Lifting with the solid heel make a big difference in your stability and strength. You don't want your sneakers compressing during a heavy snatch or jerk.

However, you don't have to buy the adidas model to get a good shoe.

Get these: I have been using them and am very happy.

http://www.vsathletics.com/...5574f216762f88e

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Krollmonster
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captjhoss wrote:
Chuck T's all the way. The best sumo deadlift shoes in the world (or at least that I've tried).


I've heard that the Chuck T's are great for deadlifts, but I wouldn't recommend them for OL. The same as I wouldn't recommend OL shoes for deadlifting.

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devilBASTARDdog
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Converse All Stars AKA Chucks.

Cheap and flat bottomed for squats/deads.

DD

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Jewlez
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Thanks for all the advice

I only started olympic lifting a few weeks ago so I think I'll try and improve my form before I buy the shoes. They seem quite expensive but will probabally be worth it in the long run. I have no balance at all so hopefully they will help.

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buffalokilla
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Professor X wrote:
I have been lifting seriously for ten years and have never had this problem. What Nike's are you wearing that feel "squishy"? They make these shoes to play basketball in and for running. If they are good enough for contact sports, they are good enough to lift in. I just don't see all of these people running around with shoe related weight lifting injuries. Perhaps you can point out a few. Until then, my Nike's do just fine. My Converse did just fine as well.


It's kind of a moot point since she's O-lifting, but I'll address it anyway...

I don't have literature, but I've seen most everyone I work out with/around have serious issues with knee position/stability and center of gravity shifting when doing heavy squatting or deadlifting if they weren't wearing shoes that fit my description. This can lead to knee pain/joint deterioration over time, especially since the COG tends to shift forward onto the toes when wearing crappy shoes not made for squatting.

Most of them didn't have the problem in bare feet or reasonable shoes. You just can't sit back on the heel of a basketball shoe (by the way, you're calling b-ball a contact sport?) under load, they're not designed for it. The heel, if the shoes are designed well for basketball, cushion impact and are thus squishy.

I think I remember you saying you train primarily with machines? If so, obviously stability is a lot less of an issue since you're not going to fall down.

-Dan

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beefcakemdphd
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Do you have a coach? What does he/she say?

beef

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Nate Dogg
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In the meantime, just get a pair of old school Chuck Taylor's! I just bought a few extra pair since my main pair for weightlifting are beginning to get worn down. :)

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Jewlez
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beefcakemdphd wrote:
Do you have a coach? What does he/she say?

beef


I don't have a proper coach, but I train with a few guys who have been lifting and competing for years, so they help me a lot. They thought it would benefit me to get the shoes, but I just wanted some other peoples opinion on it.

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Krollmonster
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Professor X wrote:
buffalokilla wrote:
I strongly disagree that most shoes are okay to lift in. If you're lifting weights that are heavy (for you), why on earth would you want to wear squishy shoes? It just doesn't make any sense, and it's inviting bad form and injury.


I have been lifting seriously for ten years and have never had this problem. What Nike's are you wearing that feel "squishy"? They make these shoes to play basketball in and for running. If they are good enough for contact sports, they are good enough to lift in. I just don't see all of these people running around with shoe related weight lifting injuries. Perhaps you can point out a few. Until then, my Nike's do just fine. My Converse did just fine as well.



I always lifted in beat up Nike's for the longest.
If you try out a pair of shoes with a solid heel you will how much more solid they feel to drive out of hole with. This is probably more noticable in OL when you are catching the bar, compared to powerlifting.

If you use regular running shoes, they are going to compress somewhat under a heavy load. Their job is to reduce impact. So, I instead of some running soles I would suggest the flat soled sneakers some mentioned above (i think they were converse all stars) or a hard soled shoe with a heel high for your purpose (whether OL or PL).

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Professor X
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Nate Dogg wrote:
In the meantime, just get a pair of old school Chuck Taylor's! I just bought a few extra pair since my main pair for weightlifting are beginning to get worn down. :)



That's when they feel the best. Who wants brand new Chuck Taylor's?

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