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dhickey
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How about the reporter. She wouldn't even let the last guy finish. What a hack. |
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dhickey wrote:
How about the reporter. She wouldn't even let the last guy finish. What a hack.
Finish what? He literally had nothing to say.
Admited she was very unprofessional however that was typical of most protests I have seen in the UK. Large groups of people with banners who actually don't have a clue. |
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I gotta agree, the guys she interviewed weren't the greatest. I really don't think they were dumb I think they had trouble actually articulating why they were protesting. On a different thread I wrote about a sound byte I heard where she said there were no minorities at the tea parties. If you go on youtube and look you will find some.
And if she wants to bitch about no minorities at the tea parties I'm gonna start bitching about why I don't see many black people in their newsroom. |
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dhickey
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Cockney Blue wrote:
dhickey wrote:
How about the reporter. She wouldn't even let the last guy finish. What a hack.
Finish what? He literally had nothing to say.
Maybe we were watching different videos....or you're an idiot. |
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"Why is he a fascist?"
"Because he is"
"No, 'why' is he a fascist?"
"He just is."
LOL, smrt people. |
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dhickey
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Fergy wrote:
"Why is he a fascist?"
"Because he is"
"No, 'why' is he a fascist?"
"He just is."
LOL, smrt people.
Must be a converted liberal. Probably didn't know what a fascist was when he thought bush was one. |
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Yeah, the protesters didn't sound the brightest, but I'd bet you she didn't look for the most intelligent looking. Plus it's tougher when you're put on the spot. But that hardly excuses the behavior now does it?
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If this were about Bush, would she have said it were offensive? |
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Mikeyali wrote:
Yeah, the protesters didn't sound the brightest, but I'd bet you she didn't look for the most intelligent looking. Plus it's tougher when you're put on the spot. But that hardly excuses the behavior now does it?
mike
I'm sure she wasn't looking for the brightest people and the whole thing was really a dig at Fox however if I cared enough about something to go out and protest, you can be damn sure that I could give you the elevator pitch of why I was protesting. |
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dhickey wrote:
Cockney Blue wrote:
dhickey wrote:
How about the reporter. She wouldn't even let the last guy finish. What a hack.
Finish what? He literally had nothing to say.
Maybe we were watching different videos....or you're an idiot.
Ok, what was his point? (I am not arguing that she was terrible, I am asking what was he protesting about.) |
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Beowolf wrote:
If this were about Bush, would she have said it were offensive?
for the most part the entire media portrayed people calling Bush a fascist or hitler just as poorly.
the about face that fox is pulling on protesters calling presidents nazis and fascists is pretty funny. |
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dhickey wrote:
Fergy wrote:
"Why is he a fascist?"
"Because he is"
"No, 'why' is he a fascist?"
"He just is."
LOL, smrt people.
Must be a converted liberal. Probably didn't know what a fascist was when he thought bush was one.
most likely the case. ron paul did pull a lot of "radical" bandwaggoners into the movement from liberal organizations, i suspect a lot of these protesters are those exact people. Small governement code pink ect. |
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Cockney Blue wrote:
dhickey wrote:
Cockney Blue wrote:
dhickey wrote:
How about the reporter. She wouldn't even let the last guy finish. What a hack.
Finish what? He literally had nothing to say.
Maybe we were watching different videos....or you're an idiot.
Ok, what was his point? (I am not arguing that she was terrible, I am asking what was he protesting about.)
I don't know, she didn't let him finish. She wasn't interested in why they were protesting. She was interested in picking out the idoit with a picture of Obama as Hitler. When she got to someone that actually seemed interested in giving her his motivation, she interupted him and then walked away. |
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PB-Crawl wrote:
dhickey wrote:
Fergy wrote:
"Why is he a fascist?"
"Because he is"
"No, 'why' is he a fascist?"
"He just is."
LOL, smrt people.
Must be a converted liberal. Probably didn't know what a fascist was when he thought bush was one.
most likely the case. ron paul did pull a lot of "radical" bandwaggoners into the movement from liberal organizations, i suspect a lot of these protesters are those exact people. Small governement code pink ect.
yep. Plenty of idiots following Ron Paul. I would dare to say a good portion of them don't even have the capacity to understand his book or message. They just like the anti-war part. At any rate, it's better to have to idiots voting for the better candidate and supporting the better policy. Even if they don't really know what they are voting for or supporting.
This is why it's very important to come up with tangible props or examples they can identify with. Something along the lines of what the libs rhetoric entails. Very shallow and not requiring much thought.
Do you want to pay your neighbors mortgage?
Do you want to pay for free cell phones for criminals?
Do you want to pay for lobster mating reseach?
Do you want your childeren to have to pay trillions of dollar in debt?
None of these questions gets to the heart of the issue, but this is all most have the ability, or more likely the desire, to comprehend. Conservatives (not Republicans) need to dumb it down a bit.
The tea party was probably started by those that know exactly what we are fighting against, but chances are most that attend only see the outer most layers.
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I was at the tea party in St. Paul. Very peaceful for most part. Only disruption I noticed was when a guy with a 911 was an inside job banner calling Bush a terrorist was shooed away. Other than that it was just a good display of ordinary people who are just fed up with all the bailouts, the stimulus money(taxes) going to people who don't care to work, live beyond their means, etc.
Then I get home and turn on the news to see how they portray it and no surprise, they put a left spin on it (greatly minimizing size of crowd, poo-pooing it as just a bunch of extremists, etc.
For anyone to still believe there is no media bias from msnbc, cnn, nbc, etc. WAKE UP!! Can anyone still take cnn, nyt serious anymore? Neither of them even reported about the tea parties at all before they happened. Then on page 16 of nyt the next day? It's no wonder both are in serious financial trouble. Thinking americans are starting to watch foxnews more and more because they are fed up with the propaganda bs on display like the cnn reporter (susan reosgen). That's not reporting-that's intergecting your veiws. What a joke cnn, nyt, msnbc (I've got a thrill running up my leg chris m.) etc. have become.
They better wake up because average americans that work, raise families, play by the rules are more and more becoming fed up with socialist thinking and false reporting. It's only going to get bigger!!!! |
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Cockney Blue wrote:
Mikeyali wrote:
Yeah, the protesters didn't sound the brightest, but I'd bet you she didn't look for the most intelligent looking. Plus it's tougher when you're put on the spot. But that hardly excuses the behavior now does it?
mike
I'm sure she wasn't looking for the brightest people and the whole thing was really a dig at Fox however if I cared enough about something to go out and protest, you can be damn sure that I could give you the elevator pitch of why I was protesting.
I think to some degree you are underestimating the "surprise" factor that comes with being picked at random out of a crowd and asked questions -- or more accurately in this case shouted down. It makes many normally articulate, well spoken people into bumbling idiots. I've been that guy once before. As soon as the microphone left I smacked myself in the forehead and thought of a million and one different analogies and examples of what it was I wanted to say. Nada while on camera. No, this wasn't recent and no this wasn't related to politics.
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Cockney Blue wrote:
dhickey wrote:
Cockney Blue wrote:
dhickey wrote:
How about the reporter. She wouldn't even let the last guy finish. What a hack.
Finish what? He literally had nothing to say.
Maybe we were watching different videos....or you're an idiot.
Ok, what was his point? (I am not arguing that she was terrible, I am asking what was he protesting about.)
Depends--if it was the clip I'm thinking about with the guy holding his baby, then he was TRYING to talk about how Lincoln placed a much bigger premium on liberty and keeping what you earn, rather than redistributing wealth and big gov't spending. He was essentially trying to say "this tea party isn't about Obama, this is about out of control gov't spending and putting our children and grandchildren in debt on an unsustainable spending track" but never really got the chance.
The idiot calling Obama a fascist was just easy bait to make others look bad. |
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Aragorn wrote:
Cockney Blue wrote:
Mikeyali wrote:
Yeah, the protesters didn't sound the brightest, but I'd bet you she didn't look for the most intelligent looking. Plus it's tougher when you're put on the spot. But that hardly excuses the behavior now does it?
mike
I'm sure she wasn't looking for the brightest people and the whole thing was really a dig at Fox however if I cared enough about something to go out and protest, you can be damn sure that I could give you the elevator pitch of why I was protesting.
I think to some degree you are underestimating the "surprise" factor that comes with being picked at random out of a crowd and asked questions -- or more accurately in this case shouted down. It makes many normally articulate, well spoken people into bumbling idiots. I've been that guy once before. As soon as the microphone left I smacked myself in the forehead and thought of a million and one different analogies and examples of what it was I wanted to say. Nada while on camera. No, this wasn't recent and no this wasn't related to politics.
Exactly right - especially with a camera in your face, unless you're REALLY used to it; even then it's hard. Look at BO himself for God's sake. Any of you who have been through PR/media training know - it's a LOT harder than it looks.
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dhickey wrote:
When she got to someone that actually seemed interested in giving her his motivation, she interupted him and then walked away.
What happened at that point? (about 2:20)? It seemed like there was some pushing going on and then the guy says, "Can you stop this sir" and she walked away from that part.
She was definitely unprofessional. There were some serious tensions before the clip started it seemed. When the clip ended the crowd was shouting something at her and someone was putting a flag of some sort in her face (while another protester moved it to get his poster on camera).
VERY poor showing on her part. She should have told headquarters that she was unable to go live at that point. Her temper was flared and she came off worse than the crowd did. |
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Pretty much agree with that GL, except that I didn't really notice anything more than simple crowd noisiness until she started shouting down the guy with the kid. After that point I think everyone around her got very angry and started in on her ("can you stop this sir" might be the camera man trying to keep someone away).
Personally I would have an extremely hard time keeping my temper if showed that kind of blatant disrespect for my views on national television, so I don't view any of the crowd reaction as "excessive". In fact I'm rather glad they stood up for him, even if they weren't very articulate or were rather angry. |
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dhickey wrote:
PB-Crawl wrote:
dhickey wrote:
Fergy wrote:
"Why is he a fascist?"
"Because he is"
"No, 'why' is he a fascist?"
"He just is."
LOL, smrt people.
Must be a converted liberal. Probably didn't know what a fascist was when he thought bush was one.
most likely the case. ron paul did pull a lot of "radical" bandwaggoners into the movement from liberal organizations, i suspect a lot of these protesters are those exact people. Small governement code pink ect.
yep. Plenty of idiots following Ron Paul. I would dare to say a good portion of them don't even have the capacity to understand his book or message. They just like the anti-war part. At any rate, it's better to have to idiots voting for the better candidate and supporting the better policy. Even if they don't really know what they are voting for or supporting.
This is why it's very important to come up with tangible props or examples they can identify with. Something along the lines of what the libs rhetoric entails. Very shallow and not requiring much thought.
Do you want to pay your neighbors mortgage?
Do you want to pay for free cell phones for criminals?
Do you want to pay for lobster mating reseach?
Do you want your childeren to have to pay trillions of dollar in debt?
None of these questions gets to the heart of the issue, but this is all most have the ability, or more likely the desire, to comprehend. Conservatives (not Republicans) need to dumb it down a bit.
The tea party was probably started by those that know exactly what we are fighting against, but chances are most that attend only see the outer most layers.
Fully agree with you. |
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Aragorn wrote:
Cockney Blue wrote:
Mikeyali wrote:
Yeah, the protesters didn't sound the brightest, but I'd bet you she didn't look for the most intelligent looking. Plus it's tougher when you're put on the spot. But that hardly excuses the behavior now does it?
mike
I'm sure she wasn't looking for the brightest people and the whole thing was really a dig at Fox however if I cared enough about something to go out and protest, you can be damn sure that I could give you the elevator pitch of why I was protesting.
I think to some degree you are underestimating the "surprise" factor that comes with being picked at random out of a crowd and asked questions -- or more accurately in this case shouted down. It makes many normally articulate, well spoken people into bumbling idiots. I've been that guy once before. As soon as the microphone left I smacked myself in the forehead and thought of a million and one different analogies and examples of what it was I wanted to say. Nada while on camera. No, this wasn't recent and no this wasn't related to politics.
Fair comment however if I was at a protest, I would be pushing in front of the reporter and delivering my agenda. That is why you are there surely. Most people who I have seen attending protests seem to be there more for the day out. |
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